The Green Valley Gun Show Field Trip
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Re: The Green Valley Gun Show Field Trip
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In the case of the elderly, still living at home, they should still be able to bear their arms. Their family should be involved with that decision, however. Law enforcement should be able to revoke the gun, as in any case, if there is misuse. As that is their right, and everyone has varying abilities at any age. We must take care in over-generalization with our legal rights.
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So I wonder if calling it a "field trip" matters? Are they packing all the residents up and requiring them to participate or is it an opt in kind of situation? I got the impression that while a home for the elderly with some autonomy, which makes them functioning adults with the ability to choose to attend or not. It doesn't sound like a place where the residents were necessarily happy and I do think given the communal living arrangements there should be policies in place for gun ownership - maybe a gun locker where they would check in their guns?Spirit Wandering wrote: ↑02 Mar 2018, 11:43I have worked with a number of organizations in the social services sector. These have covered a range of residential settings, including those for the elderly. This type of field trip is not one I have come across in any of those facilities. I would have remembered if I had, as I would have found it disturbing. I'm not sure if it happens but I wouldn't think it is common. So, that leaves me wondering if this was just a plot device the author used to set up later events in the book?
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I agree. What a bizarre idea, to take groups of people to a gun show! Actually, even holding gun shows is bizarre. Such events are clearly only about increased sales and avoid/decry/ignore any manufacturer’s responsibility for how the weapons are used.SPasciuti wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 12:55 I have a pretty strong opinion on this. After extensive reading on the subject, I still just don’t understand how people seem to think they need guns. At the end of the day, these weapons cause more harm than good and I frankly think it’s disturbing and ridiculous that he was permitted to buy guns and bring them back to a communal setting.
Naturally, I don’t expect everyone to agree with me, but there are times and places for guns and a Senior Citizen’s Home is not one of them.
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I agree completely! I cannot believe they took them to the gun show in the first place and then to allow the purchase of guns is absolutely crazy- and probably farfetched. I have to believe there is a policy against guns on these premises.Smaug wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 19:13 My initial reaction to this is "No! Don't take them to a gun show!" But really I don't get to dictate that kind of stuff. I do think though that having guns in a place where people live communally like old age facilities, hospice centres, etc. shouldn't be allowed. My mind immediately goes to people with dementia or alzheimer's who might, through no fault of their own, have some kind of episode with a gun.
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you have the point! i see this situation with my grandpa. he wanted to hold his gun when somebody is conflict with him and tries to challenge for firing.Camille Turner wrote: ↑13 Mar 2018, 15:28 I thought the whole thing was highly irresponsible. There is no reason that an elderly person should need a gun in one of these facilities.
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Wow, yes that's so dangerous!n-dai che wrote: ↑27 Mar 2018, 23:12you have the point! i see this situation with my grandpa. he wanted to hold his gun when somebody is conflict with him and tries to challenge for firing.Camille Turner wrote: ↑13 Mar 2018, 15:28 I thought the whole thing was highly irresponsible. There is no reason that an elderly person should need a gun in one of these facilities.
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Yeah, gun is good for self defense, but on the side is very dangerous when it is not used properly.Camille Turner wrote: ↑28 Mar 2018, 13:15Wow, yes that's so dangerous!n-dai che wrote: ↑27 Mar 2018, 23:12you have the point! i see this situation with my grandpa. he wanted to hold his gun when somebody is conflict with him and tries to challenge for firing.Camille Turner wrote: ↑13 Mar 2018, 15:28 I thought the whole thing was highly irresponsible. There is no reason that an elderly person should need a gun in one of these facilities.
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I feel you. Guns must be in the right facility as well.Tbunde5 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2018, 10:05 Facilities reserve the right in all states to prohibit residents from having lethal weapons. I can't imagine, for example, a facility for Alzheimer's patients allowing guns. But a retirement community is not a nursing home. So it is entirely possible that they would be allowed.
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