The Elderly and Retired; Thoughts from Final Notice
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Re: The Elderly and Retired; Thoughts from Final Notice
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The elderly were threatened and more vulnerable to this event because of the idea that they are "weak". They thought guns will make them feel secure.
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What a great point. Every time you turn on the TV you get hit with ads of either young women scantily clad or commercials for hair growth, anti-age cream, or something about "feeling and acting young again". This is a horrible message to send. And it's constantly everywhere we look. Even if every person an elderly individual actually encountered was kind to him, the impersonal messages conveyed through society are so harsh. It's great that technology can help us overcome some of the pitfalls to aging, but it's no fun having the constant reminders of how unpleasant growing old is or will be.
We do all dread getting older. We think about all of the negative aspects of it and even talk about how we will finally get to retire when we hit a certain age but we won't be able to enjoy it as we would in our 20s and 30s.
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This got me thinking, you visit your granny and he/she can't remember you (alzheimer's), but remembers where the gun is...Haute_Coffee wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 09:00 The idea of the senior citizens being targeted by the NRA is the point of the book that had me thinking the most. The NRA is in the business of selling guns and they specifically manipulated a group in society that is made to feel powerless. They are made to feel redundant, they are being pushed around (literally, as Vince talks about early in the novel). The NRA targets the feeling that they have lost control and offers them gun ownership as a way of getting their power back. They give seniors who might feel confused or intimidated in public a way of feeling strong and protecting themselves.
I think right now, especially there is such a huge gap between senior citizens and young people due to technology. It is easy for an older person to feel the world doesn't belong to them anymore.
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I agree with you. My grandpa also had Alzheimer and still remember whre he puts his gun. My grandma put the gun in other place because sometimes grandpa wanted to do firing drill. He is not allowed.KitabuKitamu wrote: ↑27 Mar 2018, 09:09This got me thinking, you visit your granny and he/she can't remember you (alzheimer's), but remembers where the gun is...Haute_Coffee wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 09:00 The idea of the senior citizens being targeted by the NRA is the point of the book that had me thinking the most. The NRA is in the business of selling guns and they specifically manipulated a group in society that is made to feel powerless. They are made to feel redundant, they are being pushed around (literally, as Vince talks about early in the novel). The NRA targets the feeling that they have lost control and offers them gun ownership as a way of getting their power back. They give seniors who might feel confused or intimidated in public a way of feeling strong and protecting themselves.
I think right now, especially there is such a huge gap between senior citizens and young people due to technology. It is easy for an older person to feel the world doesn't belong to them anymore.
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Exactly. Now I definitely know lots of seniors who wouldn’t be a danger with a gun, but I also know quite a few who have lost reaction time/vision to the point where they can’t drive. If you physically cannot have a drivers license, I don’t think you should have a gun license.n-dai che wrote: ↑27 Mar 2018, 09:59I agree with you. My grandpa also had Alzheimer and still remember whre he puts his gun. My grandma put the gun in other place because sometimes grandpa wanted to do firing drill. He is not allowed.KitabuKitamu wrote: ↑27 Mar 2018, 09:09This got me thinking, you visit your granny and he/she can't remember you (alzheimer's), but remembers where the gun is...Haute_Coffee wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 09:00 The idea of the senior citizens being targeted by the NRA is the point of the book that had me thinking the most. The NRA is in the business of selling guns and they specifically manipulated a group in society that is made to feel powerless. They are made to feel redundant, they are being pushed around (literally, as Vince talks about early in the novel). The NRA targets the feeling that they have lost control and offers them gun ownership as a way of getting their power back. They give seniors who might feel confused or intimidated in public a way of feeling strong and protecting themselves.
I think right now, especially there is such a huge gap between senior citizens and young people due to technology. It is easy for an older person to feel the world doesn't belong to them anymore.
This is not meant to disparage seniors. I just viewed the NRA as manipulating members of a group that feel powerless in American society.
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Different countries have different cultures, yet it is alarming that in other who loves the elderly and their families managed to take care of them, but now, home for the aged is increasing.londonmartine wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 04:18 Where are you based? I'm in the UK, and my heart absolutely breaks for the elderly and the way our culture has evolved to treat them. As far as I can see, it's a byproduct of a world which has changed to involve a lot more moving around and, as a result, families moving away from each other. You then no longer have the support system from the different generations, and you have less of a connection with your parents when you live far away. Then, at the end of life, it's not practical to look after them, and it's easier to emotionally distance yourself from them, right when they are most vulnerable. I genuinely dread getting to an age when I am weak and vulnerable because I know that it will be lonely. I can completely understand Fleisher's depiction of a character who rebels against the status quo.
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This is an interesting view. I personally do not agree totally with you but I see what you are getting at. I think many people can be morally upright without being a Christian, and on the flip side, many Christians can be morally confused. I do not know that a lack of God being as prominent in our society is causing a shift in the treatment of the elderly, though I suppose it could be a contributing factor.DancingLady wrote: ↑02 Mar 2018, 10:41 I think the number one reason is because society has pushed God out, therefore “honor your father and mother” has ceased to be a command. Without God as the ultimate authority, the individual becomes his own authority and that leads immediately to an extremely self centered world view where people only see others for what they can get from them. When a person is old and can not contribute the kind of things they used to, the self centered person no longer has much interest in the old. So much wisdom and insight is lost by neglecting the elderly, but when the (adult) children are focused only on themselves, wisdom is not even on the radar. I’m seeing this novel in part as a commentary on secularism and a projection of one of its impending consequences. As a Christian I see Jesus as the only solution because no matter what we do through legislation, only Jesus can change the heart of man, and without a change of heart, no meaningful change is going to happen.
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Exactly. Children usually have protectors, but that is less true for the elderly (in my opinion based on what I have observed).kandscreeley wrote: ↑04 Mar 2018, 14:49 I think it's because bullies always target those who are weaker than them. The elderly are an easy target. That doesn't make it right....