What is the best way to overcome abuse and trauma?
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Re: What is the best way to overcome abuse and trauma?
From personal experience, being reminded that you are not alone in your struggle and that others have passed through similar if not worse experiences helps a lot.azerikaj wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 13:07 I don't know...I have met people who recovered best by doing a lot of delving, and others who preferred to put one foot in front of the other more.
I really enjoy Toni Morrison's writing too, but the intensity means it takes a while to read one--still think "The Bluest Eye" is the best since she kept it simple.
As far as Toni Morrison is concerned, I guess the intensity of her writing is precisely the thing I love most about her style. This may happen because I also live life to the fullest in spite of the danger of being constantly hurt.
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Correct. I also believe that community pressure can still do wonders. You are right about healing, though. This is a different matter and it requires a lot of patience and determination.KitabuKitamu wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 13:57 In the past, we used to have the benefit of community living, where everybody's life was everyone's business. This can aid in prevention of abuse, because it will be easily discovered. Healing is more difficult and takes more than community.
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I think the alcoholic father is the main responsible one in the family. The best way to respond is to leave the situation.
To deal with something so bad you need a support group. Taking up a hobby like art or sewing and keeping yourself active in sports is the only way to deal with stress. But you probably can never force someone to change. If you stay away long enough they will learn the consequences of their behavior. It's the only way they will change I think.
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Keeping yourself busy may work, but not on the long run. All it takes is one moment in which your mind wanders freely and you will remember the abuse. Something you taste, smell, hear or see may suddenly remind you of the traumatic experience. I have just remebered Marcel Proust and his famous madeleine. Our memories are not always beautiful and our mind has its way of tricking us into bringing back what we would give anything to forget.
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Theoretically, I have reached the same conclusions. Thank you. It feels good to know you're not the only one thinking like this. Practically, it is incredibly hard to make your ideas work. I know people who cry out their abuse for the world to hear and take action and guess what? Nothing happens. I also know people who silence the voice of their past and pretend nothing had ever happened and guess what again? It did happen and it still affects them. Forgiving is very good for the abused and it gives one the feeling of being the better person and somehow filling your heart with love and positivism. Conscious self-awareness and repatterning are a different story because even if you become self-aware of your unconscious response to the past traumatic experience, you have the tendency of feeling justified to react in that manner. I have been trying to reprogram myself this way and I am not always successful.Spirit Wandering wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 17:49 I would agree with the recommendation of therapy but, based on my own experience, I would specifically focus on two ideas. First, is to work toward getting to a place of forgiveness. This is not an easy thing and requires releasing the pain and resentment first. However, forgiveness is ultimately not for the benefit of the abuser but rather for the person who has been abused. I sincerely believe that, without this, one continues to hold on to their core of pain, no matter how much therapy and behavior modification they experience. Second, I think conscious self awareness is a critical element. By this I mean the ability to recognize when one's reactions to current situations are being triggered by unconscious past memories of trauma and abuse. Conscious response re-patterning is essential.

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Yes, intensity can be great...I welcome it a lot of the time. They just aren't, I don't know, "beach reads,", but if you make the effort, they are usually worth it.cristinaro wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 11:52From personal experience, being reminded that you are not alone in your struggle and that others have passed through similar if not worse experiences helps a lot.azerikaj wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 13:07 I don't know...I have met people who recovered best by doing a lot of delving, and others who preferred to put one foot in front of the other more.
I really enjoy Toni Morrison's writing too, but the intensity means it takes a while to read one--still think "The Bluest Eye" is the best since she kept it simple.
As far as Toni Morrison is concerned, I guess the intensity of her writing is precisely the thing I love most about her style. This may happen because I also live life to the fullest in spite of the danger of being constantly hurt.
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Forgiveness is key. I forgave right after it happened and walked away. I thought I was fine, but I still had to work on me. Yet, also forgive myself which is even harder. Even now, I feel like I'm not fully there because of how I respond to certain situations and there's a small thing in the back of my mind which brings me back to those moments. Getting there.Spirit Wandering wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 17:49 I would agree with the recommendation of therapy but, based on my own experience, I would specifically focus on two ideas. First, is to work toward getting to a place of forgiveness. This is not an easy thing and requires releasing the pain and resentment first. However, forgiveness is ultimately not for the benefit of the abuser but rather for the person who has been abused. I sincerely believe that, without this, one continues to hold on to their core of pain, no matter how much therapy and behavior modification they experience. Second, I think conscious self awareness is a critical element. By this I mean the ability to recognize when one's reactions to current situations are being triggered by unconscious past memories of trauma and abuse. Conscious response re-patterning is essential.
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Writing abuse can be hard for two reasons. If the writer has never experienced abuse and is just taking tropes from media and not doing research, it will be hard. Or, if they're writing from experience it can be hard because it brings up old feelings and trauma from the abuse.
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Yes. i too believe that writing gives you different perspectives. it somehow gives light on things.cristinaro wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 10:56briellejee wrote: ↑06 Apr 2018, 09:30 The abusive father is just one person in the equation. The people who are just observing this father abuses his daughter are also responsible. Overcoming trauma and abuse is difficult and I can relate to the story. I wasn't much physically abused but was verbally and mentally abused by my parents, especially my dad. I had to take refuge in art too to help me go trhough it. I am still going through it though. Some days you thought you've overcome it but there would be days where it comes right back up in your mind and in your dreams. Being a writer myself too, writing abusive scenes works both ways: it is difficult if you've been through it because you have to reopen the wounds and it's like you're reliving it. Second, i realized writing and talking about it helps you in accepting and facing what happened.
Writing about a traumatic experience is indeed as tough as it can get, but I am thinking like this. You already live that thing over and over again, maybe something will change if you just pour it out on paper. Maybe you'll see things differently, maybe you'll add another perspective and you'll see everything through different eyes. One way or another, it may be worth a try in spite of the trauma itself of having to relive the painful moment.
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cristinaro wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 02:29Unfortunately, there are still so many countries in the world where things happen exactly as in Natalie's case in the '50s or even worse. I am thinking of a wonderful novel I've read that made me cry - A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini. I only wish there were more professionals or organizations to help people in Natalie's situation.rcarr13 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 16:06 Everyone is different and every situation is different, so I think there are many different ways of responding. Now, victims of this type of abuse can seek professional counseling and there are many non-profit organizations to help people get out of these types of situations, but in the time period the book is set in that wasn't the case. It would have been much harder for the mother to find a means of supporting herself and her children if she decided to leave. That being said, no the father isn't the only one responsible. The mother should be standing up for her children, not the other way around. Her father also lives with them and allows his daughter and grandchildren to be treated that way? Either of them could seek help outside the family to get out of the situation and they choose not to. I think it would be hard to write about abusive situations, but not impossible. This author does a good job, in my opinion, of showing the different responses from the different family members in Natalie's home.
I totally agree with your analysis here as the saying goes, a problem shared is a problem half-solved so talking about with it especially with a professional alleviates the pain instilled by the abuse. And a mother has to serve a shield for her children in cases of such.