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Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 03:14
by P Reefer
Do you think Toni's participating in what was traditionally strictly girls' chores in many cultures be a deterrent or a catalyst for either a father or mother to share this book with his or her boy child ? :techie-studyingbrown:

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 03:24
by Aisha Nelofer
Actually there was no work designed to be done only by a girls. Girls are printing their footprints in all walks of life. They are also working nowadays which was traditionally boy's chores. Nothing is permanent except a change.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 03:56
by Helen_Combe
Bookmermaid wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 03:14 Do you think Toni's participating in what was traditionally strictly girls' chores in many cultures be a deterrent or a catalyst for either a father or mother to share this book with his or her boy child ? :techie-studyingbrown:
It’s an interesting question. In the West, such distinctions are being broken down all the time. We now have female fire fighters and male nurses. I would hope that in other cultures, this book will be a catalyst.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 03:57
by Gravy
Sadly, many cultures still impose sterotypical gender roles, to the detriment of the child, and sometimes to the people who have to deal with them later in life.

I had a friend when I was younger. He loved to play "girls" games. House, dolls, etc...
He also had to live with an abusive step father who hated this about him.

There are no "boys" chores or "girls" chores, and knowing that this book defies gender stereotypes would be a point in for it, in my opinion.

However, there are those, such as the man I mentioned, who probably wouldn't want it in their house.

I feel so badly for kids whose parents can't see the pain they put their kids through. And even worse for those whose parents just don't care, as long as they don't go against the status quo.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 04:37
by P Reefer
Helen_Combe wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 03:56
Bookmermaid wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 03:14 Do you think Toni's participating in what was traditionally strictly girls' chores in many cultures be a deterrent or a catalyst for either a father or mother to share this book with his or her boy child ? :techie-studyingbrown:
It’s an interesting question. In the West, such distinctions are being broken down all the time. We now have female fire fighters and male nurses. I would hope that in other cultures, this book will be a catalyst.
In my culture as well a female can get into any job for which she is qualified. However, many males still hold stereotypes of boy' s tasks as oppose to girls. Toni the Superhero doing those roles translates to Toni the sissy. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 05:31
by Helen_Combe
Bookmermaid wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 04:37 In my culture as well a female can get into any job for which she is qualified. However, many males still hold stereotypes of boy' s tasks as oppose to girls. Toni the Superhero doing those roles translates to Toni the sissy. Thanks for sharing.
Then I’m charging you with the job of breaking that stereotype :wink:

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 07:40
by P Reefer
Helen_Combe wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 05:31
Bookmermaid wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 04:37 In my culture as well a female can get into any job for which she is qualified. However, many males still hold stereotypes of boy' s tasks as oppose to girls. Toni the Superhero doing those roles translates to Toni the sissy. Thanks for sharing.
Then I’m charging you with the job of breaking that stereotype :wink:
Its easier said that done, as long as the male figures in the house sleeps, watches TV or reads newspapers while mom and sisters cooks, sweeps and clean, it will continue to be a battle. I m up to the task in my classrooms of changing puerile mindsets.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 07:43
by P Reefer
Aisha Nelofer wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 03:24 Actually there was no work designed to be done only by a girls. Girls are printing their footprints in all walks of life. They are also working nowadays which was traditionally boy's chores. Nothing is permanent except a change.
I quite agree. But it is certainly not the mindset of many males, in many cultures.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 07:49
by P Reefer
Gravy wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 03:57 Sadly, many cultures still impose sterotypical gender roles, to the detriment of the child, and sometimes to the people who have to deal with them later in life.

I had a friend when I was younger. He loved to play "girls" games. House, dolls, etc...
He also had to live with an abusive step father who hated this about him.

There are no "boys" chores or "girls" chores, and knowing that this book defies gender stereotypes would be a point in for it, in my opinion.

However, there are those, such as the man I mentioned, who probably wouldn't want it in their house.

I feel so badly for kids whose parents can't see the pain they put their kids through. And even worse for those whose parents just don't care, as long as they don't go against the status quo.
Its a sad cycle as these men will sometimes make poor companions or helpers when the greatest assistance needed may be in small everyday tasks rather than in the traditional male chores of fixing roof or plumbing which they very often can't do.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 08:49
by bookowlie
I didn't view the chores Toni did as traditionally male or female. It's fairly common for kids of either gender to be told to dust, wash the dishes, etc.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 09:16
by Aisha Nelofer
Yeah i agree wih you it is not the mindset of many males. But still there.. I want this to be not the mindset of all males.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 09:25
by AmySmiles
Growing up I remember males and females doing chores no matter what they were. It seemed to me like when it came to adults is when the gender roles broke out. I guess it is different from everyone's perspective.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 10:37
by gen_g
Bookmermaid wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 03:14 Do you think Toni's participating in what was traditionally strictly girls' chores in many cultures be a deterrent or a catalyst for either a father or mother to share this book with his or her boy child ? :techie-studyingbrown:
Hopefully, in this society, people are generally viewing women as being equal to men. I suppose it depends on the parent; if the parent holds sexist views, I suppose he/she would refrain from sharing the book and vice versa. It is a topic that needs to be addressed with people of all ages.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 12:31
by MsTri
AmySmiles wrote: 01 Jul 2018, 09:25 Growing up I remember males and females doing chores no matter what they were. It seemed to me like when it came to adults is when the gender roles broke out. I guess it is different from everyone's perspective.
That's how it was when I was growing up; my mother made sure that BOTH my brother and I learned to cook, clean, do laundry, iron, darn socks, etc. We both also had to mow the lawn and learn to change a tire... Just what the heck do these men think they're going to do between living at home and being married? What about confirmed bachelors? It's just mind-boggling.

Re: Toni the Superhero

Posted: 01 Jul 2018, 13:34
by palilogy
I'm from New York where everything goes - so I noticed nothing wrong during this book.
Perhaps from a different readers perspective?