Do you think this book predicts the future?
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Re: Do you think this book predicts the future?
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Countries and empires have gained and lost power throughout history. The Roman empire was brought down and the United States will likely lose power as well. The GDP of the country might be doing well currently, but it is a small portion of the rest of the world. Changing spending habits and world economies will force the US to adapt or falter. I don't think the country is going to crumble, but it won't have the same amount of power.
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I could see an oligarchy government in other countries, especially in places where major political and social unrest has occurred.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 11:18I actually can’t picture any future without some form of presidency. I feel like something would have to go very wrong (as it did in the book) for an oligarchical government to come into play. But I also struggle to see a future that has space travel - so I’m obviously a bit narrow mindedLil Reads wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 08:33 I could absolutely see oligarchy based governments becoming more prevalent in the future.
It does seem like a major shift would have to occur socially and politically for the future Gariffo writes about to come true, but those can happen very rapidly. Consider the Internet - in the 1990s, it was mainly used by academics and several books or articles published then did not predict the rapid growth of the Internet or how it is used for entertainment today.
Speaking of space travel, lots of books published in America during the 1950s predicted space travel and living on other planets becoming the norm and that hasn't happened yet, so who knows what will happen?
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Are you sure you'd put your faith in Elon Musk? Just to be clear, the same nut job who wanted to use submarines, that couldn't fit, to rescue the Thai soccer team, and when his idea was deemed unworkable, called the diver a pedophile? Elon Musk a great salesman and is marketing his company well, but mental stability isn't always required to run a business. In all fairness though I would trust him over some world leaders such as Rodrigo Duterte.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 14:18I love this! It's actually quite terrible that I would sooner put my faith in Elon Musk than certain other world leaders. It's funny how people with nothing to prove are the ones that we find ourselves looking toward for answers. I would happily live in a world run by Elon Musk. There would be a lot more cars floating in space, but I could live with thatsharkyjen998 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 14:43 Imagine Elon Musk really solving the Flint water crisis (as he has pledged to do on Twitter). People would start to realize that we don't need these corrupt politicians anymore, but rich corporations will be there to fill the power vacuum!
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I'm going to need to disagree with you. People always want to be spoon fed because critical thinking is harder. And let's face it, reading isn't a strong suit for most people. Short sound bites, catchy slogans, and emotional appeals shape the collective beliefs and will change the tide of a culture. Governments, corporations, NPOs, and any other group spends considerable amounts of money and time to push thought towards their cause. I haven't finished the book yet, but Agent Silver is not the average person in a country and his fictional responses shouldn't be relied upon to depict current people.
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Well, one thing is for certain, we are definitely closer now than we were back then! I always wonder what I will see in my lifetime. They say the first person to live to be 200 years old has already been born - amazing!Lil Reads wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 14:47I could see an oligarchy government in other countries, especially in places where major political and social unrest has occurred.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 11:18I actually can’t picture any future without some form of presidency. I feel like something would have to go very wrong (as it did in the book) for an oligarchical government to come into play. But I also struggle to see a future that has space travel - so I’m obviously a bit narrow mindedLil Reads wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 08:33 I could absolutely see oligarchy based governments becoming more prevalent in the future.
It does seem like a major shift would have to occur socially and politically for the future Gariffo writes about to come true, but those can happen very rapidly. Consider the Internet - in the 1990s, it was mainly used by academics and several books or articles published then did not predict the rapid growth of the Internet or how it is used for entertainment today.
Speaking of space travel, lots of books published in America during the 1950s predicted space travel and living on other planets becoming the norm and that hasn't happened yet, so who knows what will happen?
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So, that's exactly it. I would sooner put my faith in Elon Musk than in the ex-president of MY country (Jacob Zuma). He was about as fit to run South Africa as he was to perform open heart surgery on a duck. Musk at least has the brain power to LEARN how to run a country smoothly - even with his whackjob tendencies.K Geisinger wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 14:49Are you sure you'd put your faith in Elon Musk? Just to be clear, the same nut job who wanted to use submarines, that couldn't fit, to rescue the Thai soccer team, and when his idea was deemed unworkable, called the diver a pedophile? Elon Musk a great salesman and is marketing his company well, but mental stability isn't always required to run a business. In all fairness though I would trust him over some world leaders such as Rodrigo Duterte.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 14:18I love this! It's actually quite terrible that I would sooner put my faith in Elon Musk than certain other world leaders. It's funny how people with nothing to prove are the ones that we find ourselves looking toward for answers. I would happily live in a world run by Elon Musk. There would be a lot more cars floating in space, but I could live with thatsharkyjen998 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 14:43 Imagine Elon Musk really solving the Flint water crisis (as he has pledged to do on Twitter). People would start to realize that we don't need these corrupt politicians anymore, but rich corporations will be there to fill the power vacuum!
I never heard about the Thai boy submarine debacle. Sounds a little ridiculous, the divers couldn't even fit in there, never mind submarines.
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Some Great Empires
Egyptian Empire
Ancient Chinese
Babylonian Empire
Greco-Roman Empire
Roman Empire
British Empire
Above is part of world history, at the height of each of these empires no one ever thought their time would come to an end.
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Some presidents/leaders of countries are bad jokes, I am Nigerian and will leave it there. Apple just hit $1 trillion in market capitalization today, how many countries are worth a tenth or twentieth of that? Super corporations might actually be closer than we know.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 15:08So, that's exactly it. I would sooner put my faith in Elon Musk than in the ex-president of MY country (Jacob Zuma). He was about as fit to run South Africa as he was to perform open heart surgery on a duck. Musk at least has the brain power to LEARN how to run a country smoothly - even with his whackjob tendencies.K Geisinger wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 14:49Are you sure you'd put your faith in Elon Musk? Just to be clear, the same nut job who wanted to use submarines, that couldn't fit, to rescue the Thai soccer team, and when his idea was deemed unworkable, called the diver a pedophile? Elon Musk a great salesman and is marketing his company well, but mental stability isn't always required to run a business. In all fairness though I would trust him over some world leaders such as Rodrigo Duterte.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 14:18
I love this! It's actually quite terrible that I would sooner put my faith in Elon Musk than certain other world leaders. It's funny how people with nothing to prove are the ones that we find ourselves looking toward for answers. I would happily live in a world run by Elon Musk. There would be a lot more cars floating in space, but I could live with that
I never heard about the Thai boy submarine debacle. Sounds a little ridiculous, the divers couldn't even fit in there, never mind submarines.
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It really is amazing what has happened just within our parents' or grandparents' lifetimes. When my mom was in college, computers were huge things you used punch cards to operate for specific tasks; now her cellphone can access the Internet, upload files, keep her schedule up to date, order groceries, and more!Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 14:58Well, one thing is for certain, we are definitely closer now than we were back then! I always wonder what I will see in my lifetime. They say the first person to live to be 200 years old has already been born - amazing!Lil Reads wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 14:47I could see an oligarchy government in other countries, especially in places where major political and social unrest has occurred.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 11:18
I actually can’t picture any future without some form of presidency. I feel like something would have to go very wrong (as it did in the book) for an oligarchical government to come into play. But I also struggle to see a future that has space travel - so I’m obviously a bit narrow minded
Speaking of space travel, lots of books published in America during the 1950s predicted space travel and living on other planets becoming the norm and that hasn't happened yet, so who knows what will happen?
Commercial space exploration might be the future or maybe another country will create another major space program. Living to 200 - wow!
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That's a really good point. In the book, the U.S. crashed because they basically ran out of money and people stopped paying tax. How easy would it be for a big corporation to swoop in and take over?ea_anthony wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 17:00Some presidents/leaders of countries are bad jokes, I am Nigerian and will leave it there. Apple just hit $1 trillion in market capitalization today, how many countries are worth a tenth or twentieth of that? Super corporations might actually be closer than we know.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 15:08
So, that's exactly it. I would sooner put my faith in Elon Musk than in the ex-president of MY country (Jacob Zuma). He was about as fit to run South Africa as he was to perform open heart surgery on a duck. Musk at least has the brain power to LEARN how to run a country smoothly - even with his whackjob tendencies.
I never heard about the Thai boy submarine debacle. Sounds a little ridiculous, the divers couldn't even fit in there, never mind submarines.
Don't get me started on African presidents... The fact that Bob Mugabe and Jacob Zuma are finally gone is a definite plus, but we still have a LONG way to go!
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I agree - America has taken a big knock when it comes to relationships with other countries. And it is much easier to comment as non-Americans. I think after so many years of creating partnerships and alliances with the world, America was looking like a true super-power. But that's being slowly broken down with the current government. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't live there or claim to know a lot about politics. But from what I've read in the news, it doesn't look positive.gen_g wrote: ↑03 Aug 2018, 00:12 I don't think it predicts the future, but perhaps there might be certain elements that come true. Empires rise and fall, and America is no exception. I don't think it will happen in the near future, but with the way things are going, I can say that (as someone not American) America's influence, honour and reputation have definitely taken huge hits due to the current government – one would be hard-pressed to find another who looks kindly upon the current administration.
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