Is mysoginism the main theme?
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Re: Is mysoginism the main theme?
It may be present in society to varying degrees, but I am noticing a rise in misandry, (women who hate men). Neither of which are good for a society that claims to want freedom and equality for all.
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Yet to read but will be really flabbergasted that there wouldn't be a single description of Hiram. Big Oversight.FictionLover wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 06:47I noticed all that too, and it completely cemented my opinion of not only the character of Hiram, but also of the author. I noticed a similar fixation on women's body size in Mr. Cole's The Spirit of Want, but I think it is much more obvious here because those comments come so close together in chapter one.Eva Darrington wrote: ↑01 Oct 2018, 23:00 I am noticing some misogyny, both in the characters and the narration. Part of misogyny is a hyper-focus on women's body sizes and physical appearances. The author writes about three women in a row, and comments on their weight and appearances. Carole was "flabby now" and wasn't exercising; "Tasha teetered on the cusp of overweight with legs like ice cream cones," then he wonders if she would "splat" another cheerleader; And of Sheryl, "He didn't like the size of her nose with dark deep wells for nostrils. She was a little overweight...." This is just the first few pages of Chapter 1.
Conspicuously absent: a physical description of Hiram.
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I just read the sample. Perhaps somewhere in the novel there is one.ea_anthony wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 20:51Yet to read but will be really flabbergasted that there wouldn't be a single description of Hiram. Big Oversight.FictionLover wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 06:47I noticed all that too, and it completely cemented my opinion of not only the character of Hiram, but also of the author. I noticed a similar fixation on women's body size in Mr. Cole's The Spirit of Want, but I think it is much more obvious here because those comments come so close together in chapter one.Eva Darrington wrote: ↑01 Oct 2018, 23:00 I am noticing some misogyny, both in the characters and the narration. Part of misogyny is a hyper-focus on women's body sizes and physical appearances. The author writes about three women in a row, and comments on their weight and appearances. Carole was "flabby now" and wasn't exercising; "Tasha teetered on the cusp of overweight with legs like ice cream cones," then he wonders if she would "splat" another cheerleader; And of Sheryl, "He didn't like the size of her nose with dark deep wells for nostrils. She was a little overweight...." This is just the first few pages of Chapter 1.
Conspicuously absent: a physical description of Hiram.
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I should be reading this book quite soon, I will watch out to see if any description of Hiram.FictionLover wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 17:49I just read the sample. Perhaps somewhere in the novel there is one.ea_anthony wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 20:51Yet to read but will be really flabbergasted that there wouldn't be a single description of Hiram. Big Oversight.FictionLover wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 06:47
I noticed all that too, and it completely cemented my opinion of not only the character of Hiram, but also of the author. I noticed a similar fixation on women's body size in Mr. Cole's The Spirit of Want, but I think it is much more obvious here because those comments come so close together in chapter one.
Conspicuously absent: a physical description of Hiram.
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I think the issue isn't so much whether the author ever describes men physically as well. For me, there is just a strong tendency for the author to focus immediately on women's and girls' physical appearances, often using critical remarks. I wanted to be clear that I am certainly not saying the author is a misogynist, only that there is this pattern in these books.ea_anthony wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 20:51Yet to read but will be really flabbergasted that there wouldn't be a single description of Hiram. Big Oversight.FictionLover wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 06:47I noticed all that too, and it completely cemented my opinion of not only the character of Hiram, but also of the author. I noticed a similar fixation on women's body size in Mr. Cole's The Spirit of Want, but I think it is much more obvious here because those comments come so close together in chapter one.Eva Darrington wrote: ↑01 Oct 2018, 23:00 I am noticing some misogyny, both in the characters and the narration. Part of misogyny is a hyper-focus on women's body sizes and physical appearances. The author writes about three women in a row, and comments on their weight and appearances. Carole was "flabby now" and wasn't exercising; "Tasha teetered on the cusp of overweight with legs like ice cream cones," then he wonders if she would "splat" another cheerleader; And of Sheryl, "He didn't like the size of her nose with dark deep wells for nostrils. She was a little overweight...." This is just the first few pages of Chapter 1.
Conspicuously absent: a physical description of Hiram.
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Let us know!ea_anthony wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 17:53I should be reading this book quite soon, I will watch out to see if any description of Hiram.FictionLover wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 17:49I just read the sample. Perhaps somewhere in the novel there is one.ea_anthony wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 20:51
Yet to read but will be really flabbergasted that there wouldn't be a single description of Hiram. Big Oversight.
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I thought was a pretty interesting character. I definitely saw his flaws but also saw the good in him also trying to get out.Laura Bach wrote: ↑05 Oct 2018, 08:12 Hiram McDowell annoyed me because of his misogyny and his selfishness. The book seems kind of centered on that theme, so I agree with you.
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I almost about a third into the novel, not only is there no description of Hiram, there is almost no description of any of the male characters. Every female character gets a line or two, some of the descriptions are barely okay and others downright condescending.ea_anthony wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 17:53I should be reading this book quite soon, I will watch out to see if any description of Hiram.FictionLover wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 17:49I just read the sample. Perhaps somewhere in the novel there is one.ea_anthony wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 20:51
Yet to read but will be really flabbergasted that there wouldn't be a single description of Hiram. Big Oversight.
As for mysogynism, not only only is it the main theme, it practically jumps out at you every other page and clubs you over the head in case you do not want to notice. Well I'll reserve my other comments till I finish the novel.
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