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Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 05:19
by Wyland
I think his parents' opinion of his visions influenced him a lot. For one, it made him think of leaving home to pursue his dreams, since they never believed in what he had to say.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 14:28
by Nadine Forsberg
I think that people do have a big influence on our religious views. All my life I have been forced to go to church and because of that I got an interest in other religions.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 05 Jun 2019, 02:47
by Ekta Swarnkar
It doesn't matter whether it is a lie or truth, curiosity leads a person to reach the root of the cause. Definitely it was people around him, who made him go deeper in the spiritual path.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 07:03
by Daniel_
In my opinion, i don't think allowing someone to lie to me hinders my spiritual journey, however, believing and taking heed to the lie hinders my spiritual journey and that is why association really matters in our journey of life.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 12:49
by AntonelaMaria
Everyone in our life affects us in one way or another but in the end, we choose what we believe. You don't really allow someone to lie to you, no one wants lies.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 16:06
by Dragonsend
Daniel_ wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 07:03
In my opinion, i don't think allowing someone to lie to me hinders my spiritual journey, however, believing and taking heed to the lie hinders my spiritual journey and that is why association really matters in our journey of life.
What really irks me about lieing, that you felt the need to do so in the first place. I know this reflects more on the liar than on the person they are lying to, but allowing someone to lie to me or around me, I would have to call them on it and then most likely disassociate myself from them.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 13 Jun 2019, 17:07
by Dee_218
Lying to yourself and hising your true self because you're scared that the immediate people in your circle, like your family, will judge you,hinders your personal and spiritual growth. I believe one has to move freely whilst being as noble and as compassionate as possible.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 14 Jun 2019, 12:20
by MirageParul
I don't think believing someone else's lies hinders one's spiritual journey. Telling the lie is on their conscience. Believing their lie, giving them the benefit of doubt shows your own forgiving nature. If anything, it will take you forward spiritually. Even if you are deceived, it can be taken as a positive lesson.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 14 Jun 2019, 12:38
by Dragonsend
MirageP wrote: ↑14 Jun 2019, 12:20
I don't think believing someone else's lies hinders one's spiritual journey. Telling the lie is on their conscience. Believing their lie, giving them the benefit of doubt shows your own forgiving nature. If anything, it will take you forward spiritually. Even if you are deceived, it can be taken as a positive lesson.
It's true that when you believed that person, but when that illusion is gone? Remember the old saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." We don't have to lose our forgiving nature because of someone's lies, but we are most times given the ability to discern the truth, just because we are forgiving and trusting doesn't mean that we should allow lying, strength in forgiveness and growth all involves a mature approach to someone who lies. Some people feed on lies and if you don't defend yourself from this(your response) then they will never stop.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 14 Jun 2019, 12:57
by MirageParul
Dragonsend wrote: ↑14 Jun 2019, 12:38
It's true that when you believed that person, but when that illusion is gone? Remember the old saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." We don't have to lose our forgiving nature because of someone's lies, but we are most times given the ability to discern the truth, just because we are forgiving and trusting doesn't mean that we should allow lying, strength in forgiveness and growth all involves a mature approach to someone who lies. Some people feed on lies and if you don't defend yourself from this(your response) then they will never stop.
Maybe it depends on your relationship with the liar? I'd be willing to believe, and to forgive, some people more than others. But yes, others' negativity does take a toll on our spirit, and spiritual journey. Compassion and understanding must go in hand with self preservation and worldliness.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 14 Jun 2019, 18:19
by Dragonsend
MirageP wrote: ↑14 Jun 2019, 12:57
Dragonsend wrote: ↑14 Jun 2019, 12:38
It's true that when you believed that person, but when that illusion is gone? Remember the old saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." We don't have to lose our forgiving nature because of someone's lies, but we are most times given the ability to discern the truth, just because we are forgiving and trusting doesn't mean that we should allow lying, strength in forgiveness and growth all involves a mature approach to someone who lies. Some people feed on lies and if you don't defend yourself from this(your response) then they will never stop.
Maybe it depends on your relationship with the liar? I'd be willing to believe, and to forgive, some people more than others. But yes, others' negativity does take a toll on our spirit, and spiritual journey. Compassion and understanding must go in hand with self preservation and worldliness.
You are correct and every situation is different. I have done a lot of work with addicts and people who lie, I consider myself a very gracious person, however, in the kind of situations I deal with, I know that the lying has to stop for any kind of life to emerge.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 20 Jun 2019, 08:37
by Kansas City Teacher
Anyone who has been in the halls of an American high school will tell you that social pressure is no joke. I am seeing more and more of this: students from other countries abandoning their religion at the doorway of the school. They go into restrooms and change, then change again before they go home. At graduation they look completely different.
So yes, the people around us have great influence on our spiritual journeys.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 21 Jun 2019, 21:06
by Dragonsend
Kansas City Teacher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2019, 08:37
Anyone who has been in the halls of an American high school will tell you that social pressure is no joke. I am seeing more and more of this: students from other countries abandoning their religion at the doorway of the school. They go into restrooms and change, then change again before they go home. At graduation they look completely different.
So yes, the people around us have great influence on our spiritual journeys.
It is a shame that they don't have someone that can approach them in a way that doesn't make them defensive, peer pressure to change so that you will fit in then you start losing your unique identity.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 27 Jun 2019, 08:08
by Prisallen
I agree with the above that people we associate with can influence the way we act, the way we think and the way we grow. I think, if we spend too much time with the wrong crowd, it can affect us negatively.
Re: How the people around us help or hinder our spiritual journey and our responses.
Posted: 16 Jul 2019, 12:27
by Areej Tahir
as much as people can affect us, its all on you how you respond and change yourself. John lied, but Richard himself was a pure person. He needs to understand that anyone can lie to you, its about how you react