You make a good point. Being vague is a technique used by authors frequently, and it does work here.Juliana_Isabella wrote: ↑23 Mar 2019, 08:22 I think that leaving certain things vague (like in the specific scenes you pointed out) allows the book the be relatable for more people. For example, others may not have the exact same questions before their vision quest, but they may still feel their questions are unimportant by the end of it.
Is anyone else looking for more context?
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Re: Is anyone else looking for more context?
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I think that quote sums up the things that don't add up in this book. My impression was that there are just concepts that can not be fully shared and I thought he gave it a really good try, but there is the final stopping point.Words are of thought and are therefore not transformative. We need to go beyond words in order to find harmony.
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I am in line with you and that's the reason I did not bother to think a lot about the points which I could not comprehend, and I was satisfied with the concepts that I could comprehend and even implement.ViziVoir wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 02:10 I find a lot of these books about spiritual enlightenment pretty vague. I suppose it just comes with the territory of trying to describe the (arguably) indescribable. I don't feel like I'm up to the task of dissecting everything you brought up, but I agree that it's pretty distracting to be left with all of these questions!
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I feel the author could have given more description of his vision so that it could have created a greater impact on the reader's mind.mmm17 wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 09:58 Good point. I would also like some clarification on certain parts, especially on how exactly the visions happen. I was really curious about them. Were they just dreams? Maybe very vivid, emotional dreams? In the Amazon he was awake, but had ingested substances. Anyway, I agree that maybe we are trying to read this too literally.
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I think the books on spirituality if not well-written can complicate the situation, and that's the reason I do not rack my brain for the concepts that are very difficult for me to comprehend. But I feel it's fine if a few of the things in the book could be helpful.
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My take on the chapter about vision quests was that the author was under the influence of something that allowed him to have out of body experiences. Perhaps all he recalls of those experiences is emotions and feelings,not actual thoughts.Letora wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 13:29 I am finding that while reading this I wish there was more context in certain situations. For example, during Robert's vision quest, he states that the questions he had were in fact not important by the middle of the day. What do you think those questions could have been? He also mentioned that his priorities were not in order. What were those priorities? Were these things in general about life, or the process of the vision quest itself? He also didn't seem to have a vision. Instead, he experienced intense emotions. Maybe I am trying to read this too literally? What are your thoughts on the chapter about vision quests, and did you have any other chapters that you needed clarification on?
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I'm halfway and I don't think I would look for more context but I agree that sometimes could be nice to get more details.
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