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Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 01 Mar 2019, 12:05
by PGreen
Did the author achieve the goal of finding "Jesus' bones"? What do you think of this concept?
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 01 Mar 2019, 13:25
by Delaney35
I think this may have been a metaphor for finding his mental enlightenment, so to speak. I thought it was an odd part though and didn't fully understand what he meant by it.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 01 Mar 2019, 14:22
by Ruba Abu Ali
Delaney35 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2019, 13:25
I think this may have been a metaphor for finding his mental enlightenment, so to speak. I thought it was an odd part though and didn't fully understand what he meant by it.
Cannot agree more! I faced the same difficulty of grasping the exact meaning behind it.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 10:55
by PGreen
Delaney35 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2019, 13:25
I think this may have been a metaphor for finding his mental enlightenment, so to speak.
A metaphor for finding mental enlightenment, I like that thought. I'm still thinking about the core of Jesus' teaching and how we can really know it.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 11:22
by rssllue
PGreen wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 10:55
Delaney35 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2019, 13:25
I think this may have been a metaphor for finding his mental enlightenment, so to speak.
A metaphor for finding mental enlightenment, I like that thought. I'm still thinking about the core of Jesus' teaching and how we can really know it.
I think that only way to really know God is to trust that His Word is entirely true from beginning to end. If He is the Creator of
everything as He states, then He is surely able to easily keep His Word and the meaning of it intact throughout the ages up to our present day. And the ultimate core of the teachings of Jesus is that He is God Himself and without that the rest of what He said and taught really has no depth or meaning.
As C. S. Lewis put it, there are 3 options:
Jesus is Who He claimed to be (God)
He was a charlatan and a liar (because of that claim)
Or He was insane (also because of that claim)
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 12:03
by Londera
I agree. I believe it was a metaphor for him finally realizing what the root of his issues are. Its the first time I have seen this metaphor.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 12:51
by Michgal 32
I think this can't be taken literally, it must have a deeper meaning like maybe finding oneself after some negative things happen to you.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 13:06
by PGreen
Delaney35 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2019, 13:25
I think that only way to really know God is to trust that His Word is entirely true from beginning to end. If He is the Creator of
everything as He states, then He is surely able to easily keep His Word and the meaning of it intact throughout the ages up to our present day. And the ultimate core of the teachings of Jesus is that He is God Himself and without that the rest of what He said and taught really has no depth or meaning.
As C. S. Lewis put it, there are 3 options:
Jesus is Who He claimed to be (God)
He was a charlatan and a liar (because of that claim)
Or He was insane (also because of that claim)
I agree with your statement from an orthodox Christian perspective. Haight indirectly argues that we cannot trust the Bible because it has been corrupted.
And as for the C.S. Lewis quote, there are more than 3 options if you believe that not every single word is actually God's actual words. I think Haight would see multiple options here.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 14:50
by rssllue
PGreen wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 13:06
Delaney35 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2019, 13:25
I think that only way to really know God is to trust that His Word is entirely true from beginning to end. If He is the Creator of
everything as He states, then He is surely able to easily keep His Word and the meaning of it intact throughout the ages up to our present day. And the ultimate core of the teachings of Jesus is that He is God Himself and without that the rest of what He said and taught really has no depth or meaning.
As C. S. Lewis put it, there are 3 options:
Jesus is Who He claimed to be (God)
He was a charlatan and a liar (because of that claim)
Or He was insane (also because of that claim)
I agree with your statement from an orthodox Christian perspective. Haight indirectly argues that we cannot trust the Bible because it has been corrupted.
And as for the C.S. Lewis quote, there are more than 3 options if you believe that not every single word is actually God's actual words. I think Haight would see multiple options here.
The question is then that if God has allowed His Word to become corrupted, is He completely trustworthy then? He would then be the Author of confusion and just be messing around with us instead of a loving, benevolent Creator Who longs to have a true relationship with us.
And if Haight would argue that not every single word was true, then who decides which ones are the truth and which ones are the corruption? It really all comes down to faith in a truly
Sovereign God and His omnipotence and inerrancy or in what we as fallible man think instead.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 15:14
by Chikari
It's an intriguing metaphor for sure! I took it to mean that he needed to find Jesus's true purpose. Like the real message behind the fluff of modern religion. I do think he managed his goal. This book and spreading his message probably fulfills some of that.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 15:51
by Bukari
I think the bones of Jesus is the legacy or the doctrines left by Christ, which need to be unearthed and activated to help gain more souls. So, to be concise, the author's main aim or work is to propagate the word of God.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 16:08
by Ekta Kumari
I think it was mainly used as a metaphor signifying that the author was chosen to find the authentic meaning behind Jesus's teachings and then propagating it to others.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 21:18
by Kristy Khem
Jesus' bones refer to his core teachings. Jesus spoke in parables in the Bible, so maybe this was why he chose to appear 'boneless' in the author's dream. It is not meant to be taken literally. The author simply had to revive Jesus' true teachings and share it with the world.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 21:20
by LV2R
I would have to say that I was really turned off by that vision because it portrayed Jesus as helpless, boneless, and weak. However, Haight thought that Jesus' call on his life was to find the core of Jesus' teaching and to share with others. The problem with finding the core of Jesus' teaching outside the Bible would seem to be a more difficult way to go, though God can speak through anything, anyone, and in many ways.
Re: Finding Jesus' bones?
Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 21:47
by Vscholz
There quite literally has been attempts at finding the bones of Jesus, so it has to be metaphorical. We use the term "bare bones" when we mean only the most essential, so perhaps he means something along those lines.