Do you think this book marks the end or christianity?

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Nadine Forsberg wrote: 13 May 2019, 14:38 It seems very unlikely as Christianity has been around a very long time and the fact that people are born into Christian also plays a part because they are told from birth that it is the truth and to erase that from your mind might be hard. They would always be Christian deep down. That's my view in any ways...
I mean no disrespect. Being "born into it" is a silly concept. Nothing could be more personal than spirituality. One would think something so important would warrant serious investigation.
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The Bible is the most read and print book in the world. I'm not sure that a thousand authors writing a thousand books like this could even put a dent in Christianity. I don't think the author was trying to do that but basically giving his opinion and why.
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lisalynn wrote: 02 May 2019, 08:30 One book end Christianity? That's like saying, will dipping a bucket of water from the Pacific Ocean cause it to dry up.
Very well put! How about will taking a grain of sand empty the dessert?
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"He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God." John 8:47
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I don’t think this book or any book can end Christianity. I agree with many other commenters who have said that faith Connor be undone by arguments or persecution. True faith is about experiencing God and having a relationship with him. Mere arguments or slander can’t change what you have experienced.
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I agree with the many others who say that it takes much more than one book to end or even as much as significantly change a belief system as strong and engrained in Western culture as Christianity.
in regard to any kind of book which in a similar way sets out to criticize or throw into doubt a certain belief system, it will take more than just putting out a book in the world to have any effect at all. If you really wanted to end Christianity, you would need very public discussions (including members of the Church) and wide-spread reporting (news, television) about your book. You would need people to talk about it and generate huge interest in your hypotheses.
I don’t see that happening with this book - the first time I heard of the book, the author, or even the Gospel of Judas was on this site. And without a burning reason why the author’s findings should change my beliefs and why this is important for my life, I don’t think it will actually affect a lot of people.
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This book will not end Christianity. It is another work in a long list of works that disagree with the deity of Christ. I think the author presents a compelling and well researched argument for the Gnostic view of Jesus and Judas. To me his book is like a dissertation arguing for acceptance of his point of view and the efficacy of his research. I will not change my beliefs, though it may change some. The diverse interpretations of the Bible, the Gnostic writings, and writings of other religions will continue until the end of time.
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No book can bring an end to Christianity. Otherwise, books of this nature written over the centuries would have long buried Christianity.
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ayomie wrote: 14 May 2019, 12:18 No book can bring an end to Christianity. Otherwise, books of this nature written over the centuries would have long buried Christianity.
Not anymore. we have the Internet now, so word can spread faster, and more important than that, what I present is NEW period evidence -- that means from the same time as the Bible. We never had this before. And scholars all missed the meaning of the Gospel of Judas, badly. The Church was covering up James, the real savior.
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Orithea wrote: 14 May 2019, 02:05 I agree with the many others who say that it takes much more than one book to end or even as much as significantly change a belief system as strong and engrained in Western culture as Christianity.
in regard to any kind of book which in a similar way sets out to criticize or throw into doubt a certain belief system, it will take more than just putting out a book in the world to have any effect at all. If you really wanted to end Christianity, you would need very public discussions (including members of the Church) and wide-spread reporting (news, television) about your book. You would need people to talk about it and generate huge interest in your hypotheses.
I don’t see that happening with this book - the first time I heard of the book, the author, or even the Gospel of Judas was on this site. And without a burning reason why the author’s findings should change my beliefs and why this is important for my life, I don’t think it will actually affect a lot of people.
So, I failed to show to you that the Betrayal of Jesus Christ is a made-up story, lacking any basis in history, but is rather, an inversion of an original gnostic story of mastership succession? I don't see how I could miss with the obvious parallels. I cited about 20 of them and explained in painstaking detail how they cannot have happened just by coincidence. Peter denied BY JESUS -- three times? -- and "in this night"? (The Apocalypse of Peter, Nag Hammadi Library)

I don't think all these comments such as yours can be sincere. I don't think you read the book.
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Janalyn101 wrote: 02 May 2019, 08:11 This book isn’t going to change a worldview on Jesus Christ and religion. It is a fact that Jesus Christ walked the earth perform miracles and was raised from the dead. It is just this authors opinion that Judis it’s comparable to Jesus in anyway.

In the past people have said the Bible proved that God condoned slavery, and that we should prosecute homosexuals and many other ridiculous claims.The bible can be interpreted in so many ways. Seemingly, so it suits are personal ideas at times. These are not at all anyone’s opinions in the free world. They are just relics of an unenlightened society. Just like those opinions, this book will eventually be a part of world history that most people are not aware of.
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13 is pretty clear about gays. This is an anachronism. It is not "a fact" that Jesus walked the earth, performed miracles and was raised from the dead, as the poster claimed. All three are Church propaganda. This has all the hallmarks of literary fiction. Read mythicist writings.
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I definitely don't think that it would put an end to Christianity as a whole. People are faithful and they believe for a reason. It might sway some, or change the beliefs of a few people but changing the view of a community of a whole is something that would be very difficult to do. And especially with something that has been around as long as Christianity. As something that is not tangible, but based on blind belief, Christianity and the concept of God and a higher power is something that can consistently be questioned, but will likely never be destroyed.
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The author did a great job in researching and everything. I don't think the book is convincing enough to put an end to Christianity. A strong believer can not be shaken.
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This book doesn't even have the potential to end Christianity because the peer pressure to continue believing regardless of what one might think after reading, is far too strong. The entire faith is based on believing that which you don't see and that which there's no proof. If that's challenged on a mass scale then you best believe that the heads of the religion whether that be in local communities or on the global scale will swoop in to dispel anything that's a threat to the profit they make off the religion. In fact, Christians take pride that their blind faith will save them in the afterlife. At best, this book would sway someone who was already doubting but not necessarily because of what's in this book. If it wasn't this book, it would've been something else. Interesting question though.
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lisalynn wrote: 02 May 2019, 08:30 One book end Christianity? That's like saying, will dipping a bucket of water from the Pacific Ocean cause it to dry up.
That's a realistic statement, Lisa. It might cause some waves or a chain reaction on a limited level, but is less probable to end such power as Christianity.
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