Overall rating and opinion of "Misreading Judas" by Robert Wahler

[Sahansdal]

I gave this book a 3 out of 4. It raises some very good questions and the author sure did a lot of research. I was tired at the end! I had no idea all of this was going on. A good place to start with this book would be to watch the National Geographic documentary entitled The Gospel of Judas. Without this, and other reference texts (translated of course), this book is hard to understand.

Good advice, KCT. Thanks for the good rating. I appreciate it. - the Author

[safah26121990]

The book sounds very intriguing to me as a non-Christian individual. It would be interesting to see the authors take on religion. and also how people pertaining to the Christian belief are approaching the book.

[T_stone]

This is a very controversial book which raised so much eyebrows, including mine. It was quite difficult to understand what the book was about in the end.

[Jimi Adewole]

I am very curious about any thoughts that challenge widely held beliefs. I recently read a book that challenged democracy as we practice it and my mind felt opened. I'm interested in how this will challenge my long held opinions on Judas' role in Christ's crucifixion. I wonder if the author can point to sufficiently authentic sources of information that can compete with the Bible. At the end of the day, isn't the truth what most people say it is?

[Sahansdal]

I am very curious about any thoughts that challenge widely held beliefs. I recently read a book that challenged democracy as we practice it and my mind felt opened. I'm interested in how this will challenge my long held opinions on Judas' role in Christ's crucifixion. I wonder if the author can point to sufficiently authentic sources of information that can compete with the Bible. At the end of the day, isn't the truth what most people say it is?

Jimi,
No! That's the point! The gnostic texts are provably -- PROVABLY -- the source for the NT Gospels. This is a huge deal for a number of reasons. First of all, scholars are mostly Christian, so they are not inclined to believe this. You have to consult someone like me, who is a mystic practitioner. Secondly, it shows the Bible NT Gospels are derived, invented, inverted, fiction. This has enormous implications for our world. The mystic Path is The Way, not biblical sacrificial martyrdom salvation. We need to fully understand what happened in the first century or we will be condemned to live another two millennia in ignorance. This was a massively successful fraud. And I used to believe in it totally, myself!

[Alys Sterk]

I will recommend this book to fellow Christians so they know what to guard against in their beliefs. There are lots of books that tend to sway Christians from their beliefs. Christians must therefore watch out.

I started as a Christian in the 1970's. I stopped when I couldn't accept that people lived and died before the time of Christ. That didn't, and still doesn't, make sense to me if there is only one savior for all. -the Author

I understand what you're trying to say, but I just can't help but think we should keep an open mind. I remember being very shocked when the real stories come out in the news...like what happened in Waco, or that TWA flight...bureaucracies are so big and powerful... I am not into conspiracy theories but anything is possible.

[Jimi Adewole]

I am very curious about any thoughts that challenge widely held beliefs. I recently read a book that challenged democracy as we practice it and my mind felt opened. I'm interested in how this will challenge my long held opinions on Judas' role in Christ's crucifixion. I wonder if the author can point to sufficiently authentic sources of information that can compete with the Bible. At the end of the day, isn't the truth what most people say it is?

Jimi,
No! That's the point! The gnostic texts are provably -- PROVABLY -- the source for the NT Gospels. This is a huge deal for a number of reasons. First of all, scholars are mostly Christian, so they are not inclined to believe this. You have to consult someone like me, who is a mystic practitioner. Secondly, it shows the Bible NT Gospels are derived, invented, inverted, fiction. This has enormous implications for our world. The mystic Path is The Way, not biblical sacrificial martyrdom salvation. We need to fully understand what happened in the first century or we will be condemned to live another two millennia in ignorance. This was a massively successful fraud. And I used to believe in it totally, myself!

You raise thoughts that are certainly arguable. I've always had to struggle with the conviction every faith seems to have of their monopoly of truth. I feel the book will suggest the same on its thoughts, much as you have on your mystic path. I'm just saying, that as much as it is relevant to a living being, the truth is what most of us agree it is, not what might have really happened.

[Sahansdal]

I am very curious about any thoughts that challenge widely held beliefs. I recently read a book that challenged democracy as we practice it and my mind felt opened. I'm interested in how this will challenge my long held opinions on Judas' role in Christ's crucifixion. I wonder if the author can point to sufficiently authentic sources of information that can compete with the Bible. At the end of the day, isn't the truth what most people say it is?

Jimi,
No! That's the point! The gnostic texts are provably -- PROVABLY -- the source for the NT Gospels. This is a huge deal for a number of reasons. First of all, scholars are mostly Christian, so they are not inclined to believe this. You have to consult someone like me, who is a mystic practitioner. Secondly, it shows the Bible NT Gospels are derived, invented, inverted, fiction. This has enormous implications for our world. The mystic Path is The Way, not biblical sacrificial martyrdom salvation. We need to fully understand what happened in the first century or we will be condemned to live another two millennia in ignorance. This was a massively successful fraud. And I used to believe in it totally, myself!

You raise thoughts that are certainly arguable. I've always had to struggle with the conviction every faith seems to have of their monopoly of truth. I feel the book will suggest the same on its thoughts, much as you have on your mystic path. I'm just saying, that as much as it is relevant to a living being, the truth is what most of us agree it is, not what might have really happened.

Good God, man. What you describe is Nazi Germany! If there is one thing truth is not, it is relative. It is what it is, not what it might be in someone's estimation. We need facts. And what I presented are FACTS, Jimi. You can see for yourself how similar the Gospel's betrayal narrative is to First and Second Apocalypses of James' mastership installation narrative. Word for word, item for item, phrase by phrase, and roughly in order, if any further proof is needed. This is logic, not judgment. The flesh is weak, the kiss, armed multitudes seizing, a sign, a naked man fleeing, three denials at night -- all these are present in order, and usually inverted. This isn't ENOUGH to show a coverup???

There is a discussion on this very thing on Bart Ehrman's blog. Christians were the FIRST to say they were right to the exclusion of all other faiths. I am not saying I am, or my faith is, exclusively right. It is Christianity that is an outlier! The Gnostics, the Essenes, the Qur'an, the Old Testament, Sant Mat (what I follow) and all other legitimate teachings are in agreement if you understand mysticism. The New Testament falls to pieces as the impossible faith. Read Ecc. 1:9! Hosea 6:6. There is no NEW "testament." God wants mercy, not sacrifice.

[Sahansdal]

I will recommend this book to fellow Christians so they know what to guard against in their beliefs. There are lots of books that tend to sway Christians from their beliefs. Christians must therefore watch out.

I started as a Christian in the 1970's. I stopped when I couldn't accept that people lived and died before the time of Christ. That didn't, and still doesn't, make sense to me if there is only one savior for all. -the Author

I understand what you're trying to say, but I just can't help but think we should keep an open mind. I remember being very shocked when the real stories come out in the news...like what happened in Waco, or that TWA flight...bureaucracies are so big and powerful... I am not into conspiracy theories but anything is possible.

KC Teacher,
What should shock you is what the Bible scholars who were tasked with interpreting the Gospel of Judas made of it. Nine of them were chosen, and eight were taught in Christian institutions. They all missed that Judas -- not Jesus!-- is the sacrifice in the Gospel of Judas' "man who bears me." And Judas covers James, the real savior of his day. This is huge news. And it points straight to the coverup of the Gospels' story of Judas 'betraying' Jesus. I am not alone in pointing our Judas covers James. It was Dr. Robert Eisenman in James the Brother of Jesus who first mentioned it. He is who inspired me.

Not everything is a conspiracy, but sometimes it is! This one really fooled people. It fooled me, briefly. How can we let something so important stand if it is provably not true?

[Sahansdal]

This is a very controversial book which raised so much eyebrows, including mine. It was quite difficult to understand what the book was about in the end.

That's why I have two books. https://www.amazon.com/Bible-says-Savio ... ler+robert

[kmwarren20]

I think that the author proposes an interesting concept. I find myself unconvinced by it, however. Perhaps others might get something out of this book, though.

[Sahansdal]

I think that the author proposes an interesting concept. I find myself unconvinced by it, however. Perhaps others might get something out of this book, though.

I have another book, that explains more deeply, but not specifically on gJudas. Want to review it? https://www.amazon.com/Bible-says-Savio ... ler+robert

[BrittaniDJ]

Although I welcome other ideas about my faith, if only to know where to set up my defenses, I do not want to read this book as one particular review I read made it clear that the book's main goal was to poke holes in Christianity. Without Judas, Jesus would still have been able to fulfill God's plan for the salvation of the world through His sacrifice. Judas' betrayal is no less real because he played a part in the story that God wrote.

[Sahansdal]

Although I welcome other ideas about my faith, if only to know where to set up my defenses, I do not want to read this book as one particular review I read made it clear that the book's main goal was to poke holes in Christianity. Without Judas, Jesus would still have been able to fulfill God's plan for the salvation of the world through His sacrifice. Judas' betrayal is no less real because he played a part in the story that God wrote.

God has no pen. People wrote the books that make up 'scripture.' You need to be skeptical and read everything, including my work, with a fresh mind.
Don't let others' reactions prejudice yours, but instead use your own mind. That's why we all have one.

If you look at all the sources available and compare them, you will find some interesting correlation. That is all I did. I have no ax to grind. If I had found otherwise, I would have said so. I just don't like being lied to. And we have all been lied to.

[Natalie MT]

This book is for a very specific audience. If you don’t understand Gnostic beliefs, you’ll be lost.