Do you think this book marks the end or christianity?

Alexander Villarasa · Post by **Alexander Villarasa** » 27 Aug 2019, 20:39

No book written by any human can end a belief system that has survived for over 2k years. The only thing that could end it is when our ego gets to incessantly push
the idea that we have become Homo Roboticus or worse Homo Deus. Jesus would be so disappointed when that happens because his coming down to earth would have been for naught.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 27 Aug 2019, 22:49

Alexander Villarasa wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 20:39 No book written by any human can end a belief system that has survived for over 2k years. The only thing that could end it is when our ego gets to incessantly push
the idea that we have become Homo Roboticus or worse Homo Deus. Jesus would be so disappointed when that happens because his coming down to earth would have been for naught.

How much research have you done to assure yourself that there even was a Jesus?

ernest mwangemi · Post by **ernest mwangemi** » 29 Aug 2019, 11:21

Christianity is more than the book, it's allover the world, I don't think someones idea and the effort to make judas seem innocent won't lead to decline of Christianity.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 29 Aug 2019, 11:28

ernest mwangemi wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 11:21 Christianity is more than the book, it's allover the world, I don't think someones idea and the effort to make judas seem innocent won't lead to decline of Christianity.

I didn't make Judas seem innocent. He never existed.

DonnaKay · Post by **DonnaKay** » 09 Oct 2019, 14:52

Christianity is a stable religion and I don't think a book can change the foundation faith of those who believe in it. On the other hand, such a book evokes questions and makes the reader think 'what if?', but doesn't do much.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 09 Oct 2019, 22:43

DonnaKay wrote: ↑09 Oct 2019, 14:52 Christianity is a stable religion and I don't think a book can change the foundation faith of those who believe in it. On the other hand, such a book evokes questions and makes the reader think 'what if?', but doesn't do much.

Look only at the new evidence. - the Author

Stephen Campana · Post by **Stephen Campana** » 24 Oct 2019, 16:21

klballard wrote: ↑02 May 2019, 06:40 It’d be impossible for a single book to end Christianity. The Bible has been the most published book of all time while being the most persecuted book of all time. Christianity has survived Emperor Nero, Gnosticism, book burning, criminalization, Richard Dawkins, etc. One book might change a few minds, but it’ll do nothing to Christianity as a whole because Christianity isn’t about facts, rules, or a book, it’s about a changed life from a Person who rose from the grave. No book can counter someone’s experience.

Exactly; Christianity has survived a million so-called threats to existence, but none of them did the job.

Stephen Campana · Post by **Stephen Campana** » 24 Oct 2019, 16:25

Sahansdal wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 22:49
Alexander Villarasa wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 20:39 No book written by any human can end a belief system that has survived for over 2k years. The only thing that could end it is when our ego gets to incessantly push
the idea that we have become Homo Roboticus or worse Homo Deus. Jesus would be so disappointed when that happens because his coming down to earth would have been for naught.
How much research have you done to assure yourself that there even was a Jesus?

Almost no historians believe Jesus did not exist, although there are a few (called mythicists)

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 24 Oct 2019, 16:36

10mile72 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 16:25
Sahansdal wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 22:49
Alexander Villarasa wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 20:39 No book written by any human can end a belief system that has survived for over 2k years. The only thing that could end it is when our ego gets to incessantly push
the idea that we have become Homo Roboticus or worse Homo Deus. Jesus would be so disappointed when that happens because his coming down to earth would have been for naught.
How much research have you done to assure yourself that there even was a Jesus?
Almost no historians believe Jesus did not exist, although there are a few (called mythicists)

What is the evidence, though? Bertrand Russell said, "Even when all the experts agree they may well be wrong." This is a perfect example. It is in my book.

Stephen Campana · Post by **Stephen Campana** » 24 Oct 2019, 17:17

Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 16:36
10mile72 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 16:25
Sahansdal wrote: ↑27 Aug 2019, 22:49

How much research have you done to assure yourself that there even was a Jesus?
Almost no historians believe Jesus did not exist, although there are a few (called mythicists)
What is the evidence, though? Bertrand Russell said, "Even when all the experts agree they may well be wrong." This is a perfect example. It is in my book.

Good point. Usually it comes down to mythicists saying that ancient sources who SHOULD have mentioned Jesus didn't; hence, He probably didn't exist, and Christians pointing to ancient sources who DID mention him, and saying it indicates that he did exist.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 24 Oct 2019, 17:26

10mile72 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:17
Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 16:36
10mile72 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 16:25

Almost no historians believe Jesus did not exist, although there are a few (called mythicists)
What is the evidence, though? Bertrand Russell said, "Even when all the experts agree they may well be wrong." This is a perfect example. It is in my book.
Good point. Usually it comes down to mythicists saying that ancient sources who SHOULD have mentioned Jesus didn't; hence, He probably didn't exist, and Christians pointing to ancient sources who DID mention him, and saying it indicates that he did exist.

Regarding the latter, mythicists dispatch tha a notion with great detail. There is NO reliable independent attestation of any Jesus of Nazareth in the extra-biblical literature. None.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 24 Oct 2019, 17:27

Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:26
10mile72 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:17
Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 16:36
What is the evidence, though? Bertrand Russell said, "Even when all the experts agree they may well be wrong." This is a perfect example. It is in my book.
Good point. Usually it comes down to mythicists saying that ancient sources who SHOULD have mentioned Jesus didn't; hence, He probably didn't exist, and Christians pointing to ancient sources who DID mention him, and saying it indicates that he did exist.
Regarding the latter, mythicists dispatch that notion with great detail. There is NO reliable independent attestation of any Jesus of Nazareth in the extra-biblical literature. None.

Stephen Campana · Post by **Stephen Campana** » 25 Oct 2019, 12:22

Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:27
Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:26
10mile72 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:17

Good point. Usually it comes down to mythicists saying that ancient sources who SHOULD have mentioned Jesus didn't; hence, He probably didn't exist, and Christians pointing to ancient sources who DID mention him, and saying it indicates that he did exist.
Regarding the latter, mythicists dispatch that notion with great detail. There is NO reliable independent attestation of any Jesus of Nazareth in the extra-biblical literature. None.

Bart Ehrman, who is an agnostic, and one of the leading NT scholars, wrote a book on the subject arguing that there almost certainly was a Jesus of Nazareth. Doesn't mean it's true. Just saying.

Sahansdal · Post by **Sahansdal** » 25 Oct 2019, 17:20

10mile72 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2019, 12:22
Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:27
Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:26

Regarding the latter, mythicists dispatch that notion with great detail. There is NO reliable independent attestation of any Jesus of Nazareth in the extra-biblical literature. None.

Bart Ehrman, who is an agnostic, and one of the leading NT scholars, wrote a book on the subject arguing that there almost certainly was a Jesus of Nazareth. Doesn't mean it's true. Just saying.

His "Did Jesus Exist' was a disaster. Mythicists pounced on it. Dr. Richard Carrier, an equally accomplished scholar, demolished it in his 600+ page "On the Historicity of Jesus.' There are others. The 'proof' is thin, at best. I think I end all debate. I have period evidence that the Gospel story of Jesus is a fabrication.

Stephen Campana · Post by **Stephen Campana** » 26 Oct 2019, 17:50

Sahansdal wrote: ↑25 Oct 2019, 17:20
10mile72 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2019, 12:22
Sahansdal wrote: ↑24 Oct 2019, 17:27
Bart Ehrman, who is an agnostic, and one of the leading NT scholars, wrote a book on the subject arguing that there almost certainly was a Jesus of Nazareth. Doesn't mean it's true. Just saying.
His "Did Jesus Exist' was a disaster. Mythicists pounced on it. Dr. Richard Carrier, an equally accomplished scholar, demolished it in his 600+ page "On the Historicity of Jesus.' There are others. The 'proof' is thin, at best. I think I end all debate. I have period evidence that the Gospel story of Jesus is a fabrication.

Did you write a book about it, and, if so, is it available on Amazon?