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Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:35
by Sahansdal
Petra1791 wrote: 10 Aug 2019, 13:59 No, it doesn't change my beliefs. Everyone has a right to their views. I am not threatened by an opposing viewpoint when my convictions are strong.
Hi! Would you consider a review of my book on Amazon? Hope so...

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 16:05
by grsaar
No! This book doesn't change my religious beliefs. No matter how much the author tries to change the perception of Judas, I still consider him to be a traitor. Their was nothing selfless about his actions. He was a selfish traitor.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 14 Aug 2019, 10:28
by Sahansdal
grsaar wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 16:05 No! This book doesn't change my religious beliefs. No matter how much the author tries to change the perception of Judas, I still consider him to be a traitor. Their was nothing selfless about his actions. He was a selfish traitor.
Do you think Gollum was real, too? Or Bilbo Baggins? Or King Arthur? There was no Judas. He didn't EXIST at all.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 14 Aug 2019, 12:21
by ernest mwangemi
Changing the normal belief of judas being seen as a traitor is what the book does but I don't think it really changes ones believe in the Gospel

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 18 Aug 2019, 11:43
by Smrithy
Being a believer of 'art for arts sake' , what I read and what I believe mayor maynot be congruent. I respect the author's point of view, acknowledging my head beliefs.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 18 Aug 2019, 12:04
by Sahansdal
Smrithy wrote: 18 Aug 2019, 11:43 Being a believer of 'art for arts sake' , what I read and what I believe mayor maynot be congruent. I respect the author's point of view, acknowledging my head beliefs.
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Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 20 Aug 2019, 17:14
by Alexander Villarasa
Judas is one of the more vexing biblical character because if it was his pre-determined role or destiny to betray Jesus , it puts into question the factuality or truth about us humans having free will, the existence of which was thoroughly detailed in the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden when they defied God 's command not to eat the forbidden fruit.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 20 Aug 2019, 22:43
by Sahansdal
Alexander Villarasa wrote: 20 Aug 2019, 17:14 Judas is one of the more vexing biblical character because if it was his pre-determined role or destiny to betray Jesus , it puts into question the factuality or truth about us humans having free will, the existence of which was thoroughly detailed in the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden when they defied God 's command not to eat the forbidden fruit.
That's one reason he never did. He is fictional, as is Jesus. :) Nothing to be alarmed about. Masters come all the time. You were meant to SEE your Master. Whoever the Master was who said John 6:40 (I think James) it clearly shows one was meant TO SEE the savior IN PERSON. Currently the Master is Baba Gurinder Singh, www.rssb.org

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 23 Aug 2019, 13:13
by Juliet+1
No, this book does not change my religious beliefs in the slightest. I have always had serious doubts about many elements of the Christian Bible, so it's not surprising that new evidence reveals additional misinterpretations. I think it's important to be open to new ideas.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 23 Aug 2019, 15:43
by Sahansdal
Juliet+1 wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 13:13 No, this book does not change my religious beliefs in the slightest. I have always had serious doubts about many elements of the Christian Bible, so it's not surprising that new evidence reveals additional misinterpretations. I think it's important to be open to new ideas.
What are your beliefs?

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 23 Aug 2019, 17:05
by Juliet+1
Sahansdal wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 15:43
Juliet+1 wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 13:13 No, this book does not change my religious beliefs in the slightest. I have always had serious doubts about many elements of the Christian Bible, so it's not surprising that new evidence reveals additional misinterpretations. I think it's important to be open to new ideas.
What are your beliefs?
I'm a devout feminist. Seriously, I find most major world religions to be painfully patriarchal, although I'm fascinated by research into the Bible. Recently discovered "The Woman's Bible" by Elizabeth Cady Stanton. It has some very interesting interpretations.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 23 Aug 2019, 18:39
by Sahansdal
Juliet+1 wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 17:05
Sahansdal wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 15:43
Juliet+1 wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 13:13 No, this book does not change my religious beliefs in the slightest. I have always had serious doubts about many elements of the Christian Bible, so it's not surprising that new evidence reveals additional misinterpretations. I think it's important to be open to new ideas.
What are your beliefs?
I'm a devout feminist. Seriously, I find most major world religions to be painfully patriarchal, although I'm fascinated by research into the Bible. Recently discovered "The Woman's Bible" by Elizabeth Cady Stanton. It has some very interesting interpretations.
Juliet+1 wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 17:05
Sahansdal wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 15:43
Juliet+1 wrote: 23 Aug 2019, 13:13 No, this book does not change my religious beliefs in the slightest. I have always had serious doubts about many elements of the Christian Bible, so it's not surprising that new evidence reveals additional misinterpretations. I think it's important to be open to new ideas.
What are your beliefs?
I'm a devout feminist. Seriously, I find most major world religions to be painfully patriarchal, although I'm fascinated by research into the Bible. Recently discovered "The Woman's Bible" by Elizabeth Cady Stanton. It has some very interesting interpretations.
You should be pleased to note that there have been women Sant Mat Masters. Mira Bai was one. You can google her name. I think she was Hindi. Sant Mat is not really an organized religion, since Masters have come in all sorts of places all throughout history. www.Scienceofthesoul.org has many of their writings, which are nearly identical to the Gnostics.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 06:44
by Jade1692
I don't know if I would say that it changes my beliefs because I never completely took the Bible at face value anyway. But what I love is that this book challenges the main tenant of Judas and Jesus, and makes you question what could have been.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 28 Aug 2019, 07:40
by Sahansdal
Jade1692 wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 06:44 I don't know if I would say that it changes my beliefs because I never completely took the Bible at face value anyway. But what I love is that this book challenges the main tenant of Judas and Jesus, and makes you question what could have been.
Great! Would you do a review on Amazon? I'm getting beat up pretty bad there by apologists.

Re: Does the book change your religeous beliefs?

Posted: 30 Aug 2019, 00:52
by Burnaard+42
It may not change my belief but in a way, it has changed how I viewed Judas as the bad character yet it may not have been intentional but by the fact that it was his role to play.