Do you think this book marks the end or christianity?
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Re: Do you think this book marks the end or christianity?
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Well said!klballard wrote: ↑02 May 2019, 06:40 It’d be impossible for a single book to end Christianity. The Bible has been the most published book of all time while being the most persecuted book of all time. Christianity has survived Emperor Nero, Gnosticism, book burning, criminalization, Richard Dawkins, etc. One book might change a few minds, but it’ll do nothing to Christianity as a whole because Christianity isn’t about facts, rules, or a book, it’s about a changed life from a Person who rose from the grave. No book can counter someone’s experience.

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I personally found the book very interesting, and I'm not certain I 100% believe his claims on Judas and James. I would need to research the topics more thoroughly with additional resources. This also does not mean I completely disbelieve what he is saying. But it is hard to determine how much it actually truth, and what is Gnostic bias. It seemed clear to me he had a bias against Christianity, which makes it harder to believe some of his statements without facts.
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Thanks, Quickstudy. You are a quick study! (But please put a second 'i' in Christian.) the idea is that a better educated society is a better society. You can read and enjoy the Bible, just understand that the New Testament isn't what people think. it is an attack on a competing ideology, one that has a heart in the reality of mysticism. I just want people to know the proof is right there in front of us now that we have these discoveries from Jordan (the Essene Dead Sea Scrolls) and Egypt (the gnostic Nag Hammadi gnostic texts, and the Gospel of Judas).Quickstudy wrote: ↑05 May 2019, 09:14 Today, with the tide of religious beliefs being grafted into America and other Christan countries, this book is a peek into the future. The book sheds light on the some say, attacks on Christanty and the shift away from the Christan faith . It is possible that this book could end Christanty, after all the Bible a book is what started it. The difference is the vaule we as a society place on the ideas within this book.
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Some scholars deserve attack. I applaud April DeConick when she contributes to understanding the Gospel of Judas, such as "your star has ascended [not 'passed by' on page 56 of the text]", but call her out for her poor logic about the nature of Judas. Judas is not irredeemably evil, but a dutiful successor. He is the protagonist from start to finish, and she is delaying the resolution of the debate between consensus (good Judas) and revisionist (bad Judas) religious studies scholars.Bluebird03 wrote: ↑05 May 2019, 10:47 I do feel like he attacked Christianity, especially when he called out specific Biblical scholars. While this book may certainly spark a lively debate, I do not think that it will shake most Christians or alter their belief system at all.
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The Mandaeans of Southern Iraq have a continuous gnostic tradition dating back to John the Baptist. There will be Christians long after the religion has become defunct as a viable teaching. At least we can protect those who have not yet been misled.melel_jo wrote: ↑04 May 2019, 14:06This is a great point; I don't believe theologists can trump faith for many religious practitioners. Even Greek theology is still practiced today, and that religion has been treated as mythology for centuries.Lhisa wrote: ↑02 May 2019, 17:30 Christianity is a faith that is based on faith. One book will never be able to shake the foundation of the true believers. The Bible itself tells you that there will be many that will question the faith and God so Christians are brought up in the faith to expect others to question their beliefs. Philosophers and atheists have been doing so for many years and yet Christianity has not died.
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It also says there is "nothing new under the sun" - Ecclesiastes 1:9. And God desires mercy, not sacrifice - Hosea 6:6. So, you tell me, how can a NEW Testament that says God sacrificed his own SON be the Way?Lhisa wrote: ↑02 May 2019, 17:30 Christianity is a faith that is based on faith. One book will never be able to shake the foundation of the true believers. The Bible itself tells you that there will be many that will question the faith and God so Christians are brought up in the faith to expect others to question their beliefs. Philosophers and atheists have been doing so for many years and yet Christianity has not died.
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Give mine about two or three generations. Remember, it took hundreds of years to get Christian doctrine established.
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