I also have difficulty relating to the angry and vengeful God. It doesn't make sense. If God is all love, why the extreme wrath and hate. Love truly overcomes hatred. I have sometimes wondered if there are two individuals but then I talk myself out of that thought.Lunastella wrote: ↑06 Aug 2019, 11:24I agree with all the points you make. That's why I tend to shy away from the Old Testament and focus on the New Testament. The angry and punishing God depicted is hard to relate to and I often don't understand why He acts the way He does.Jsovermyer wrote: ↑02 Aug 2019, 05:57 I think most of the stories show God's wrath. Why did he put the Tree of Good and Evil in the Garden in the first place? Just to be a temptation? Why did he require a blood sacrifice in the Cain and Abel story? Also the big Angry God story is the Flood. He killed everything on the earth that wasn't on the ark.
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Most of the stories in the Old Testament show a wrathful and vengeful side to God. Stories like Lot's wife, Noah's ark and many others give this exact impression...but I have to mention stories like Sarah giving birth to Isaac at an old age, the story of Ester, reconciling Joseph and his father, and a lot more to counter that. The Bible is like a glass of water that is half filled; they're those who would say it is half-full and those who would say it is half-empty.Chrystal Oaks wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 01:25I also have difficulty relating to the angry and vengeful God. It doesn't make sense. If God is all love, why the extreme wrath and hate. Love truly overcomes hatred. I have sometimes wondered if there are two individuals but then I talk myself out of that thought.Lunastella wrote: ↑06 Aug 2019, 11:24I agree with all the points you make. That's why I tend to shy away from the Old Testament and focus on the New Testament. The angry and punishing God depicted is hard to relate to and I often don't understand why He acts the way He does.Jsovermyer wrote: ↑02 Aug 2019, 05:57 I think most of the stories show God's wrath. Why did he put the Tree of Good and Evil in the Garden in the first place? Just to be a temptation? Why did he require a blood sacrifice in the Cain and Abel story? Also the big Angry God story is the Flood. He killed everything on the earth that wasn't on the ark.
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Unpopular thought but it's kinda relatable.Jsovermyer wrote: ↑02 Aug 2019, 05:57 I think most of the stories show God's wrath. Why did he put the Tree of Good and Evil in the Garden in the first place? Just to be a temptation? Why did he require a blood sacrifice in the Cain and Abel story? Also the big Angry God story is the Flood. He killed everything on the earth that wasn't on the ark.
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That's a good analogy.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑12 Aug 2019, 01:50Most of the stories in the Old Testament show a wrathful and vengeful side to God. Stories like Lot's wife, Noah's ark and many others give this exact impression...but I have to mention stories like Sarah giving birth to Isaac at an old age, the story of Ester, reconciling Joseph and his father, and a lot more to counter that. The Bible is like a glass of water that is half filled; they're those who would say it is half-full and those who would say it is half-empty.Chrystal Oaks wrote: ↑11 Aug 2019, 01:25I also have difficulty relating to the angry and vengeful God. It doesn't make sense. If God is all love, why the extreme wrath and hate. Love truly overcomes hatred. I have sometimes wondered if there are two individuals but then I talk myself out of that thought.Lunastella wrote: ↑06 Aug 2019, 11:24
I agree with all the points you make. That's why I tend to shy away from the Old Testament and focus on the New Testament. The angry and punishing God depicted is hard to relate to and I often don't understand why He acts the way He does.
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All the stories shows God's love, even in His wrath. If He wasn't so loving, He would have destroyed all of mankind and spared none. God still loves Lucifer, that's why He didn't extinguish him from existence. God's love is eternal.
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Yes, this is a story that clearly shows God's love, and he also promised not to destroy man by flood ever again.oluchiokere84 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2019, 05:16 I think the story of God sparing the life of Noah and his family from destruction shows God's love. This is more so because he warned the people to repent before the flood started but they refused to do so.
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Yes, I do wonder the same.Ekta Swarnkar wrote: ↑02 Aug 2019, 21:04 The story of Adam and Eve is shown as God's love, although I wonder he was always trying to teach lessons (if really he doesn't wanted Adam and Eve to have the fruit of Knowledge then why he planted it in the garden that is created by him) there were other instances also.
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Yes, by presenting the consequences to the mankind.Smrithy wrote: ↑20 Aug 2019, 03:23Yes, I do wonder the same.Ekta Swarnkar wrote: ↑02 Aug 2019, 21:04 The story of Adam and Eve is shown as God's love, although I wonder he was always trying to teach lessons (if really he doesn't want Adam and Eve to have the fruit of Knowledge then why he planted it in the garden that is created by him) there were other instances also.
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God created man with free will. The freedom to choose between bad and evil.. therefore choosing good was a sign of obedience to God and that's the cause of man's fall.Jsovermyer wrote: ↑02 Aug 2019, 05:57 I think most of the stories show God's wrath. Why did he put the Tree of Good and Evil in the Garden in the first place? Just to be a temptation? Why did he require a blood sacrifice in the Cain and Abel story? Also the big Angry God story is the Flood. He killed everything on the earth that wasn't on the ark.
God required a blood sacrifice just to remind man that he was a sinner. Since God is holy he requires death as a punishment for sin. Blood had to be shaded to cover for their sins. Also by offering a blood sacrifice it was a sign of admiting that they were sinners due to Adamic sin .
As I haved said earlier God is holy and He demands death as a punishment for sin. We find that during Noah's time people became wicked until God was grieved for having created man. He gave them time to repend ( 120 years) but still remained rebellious. They failed to admit that they were sinners hence God had to destroy them. God is Holy and righteous,, He does not tolerate evil however He showed them love and mercy by giving them time to repend. Only Noah found grace in the eyes of God.
(Genesis Chapter 6) But remember before destroying the other, man had a chance to believe God's Word through Noah, power of free will.
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I see God’s love in this—in that He proclaimed justice for the children. I am of course oversimplifying, but it was an eye-opening moment. And it isn’t as though I lack compassion for those who lost their firstborn; it still grieves me. But when I consider how God orchestrated it...that there were nine other plagues, each more devastating than the last, which demonstrated His power and sincerity; that there was opportunity for the people to be hidden and passed over; that the children were seen, the people were seen, and their bondage and suffering was avenged; that He knew what a great sorrow this would be to the people, and made it known that it would never happen again like so. Lot to think on.