And because those who dont agree withthe one in power have no say they generally are silenced or squashedSinclairess wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 11:43Right, it's astonishing how humans instinctively give over their mental power to someone that way, without question, in such large numbers. That amount of power is dangerous. The king is a stranger, really. He doesn't know half the people he rules.
The killing law
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Someone else above had mentioned the spirituality aspect of the Echoes to their Sound and I LOVE that idea! I hadnt thought of them being connected in that sense, but I wouldnt be surprised if the author intended them this way!
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The Killing law took advantage of the incongruous bond between an Ech o and its Sound. This idea that an Echo is part of the Sound's spirit is interesting ,but could be the very same explanationthe False King used to get the law enacted.Kro92813 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 07:07I like this idea! That the echo is sort of like a part of our spirit. And their lucidity kind of adds to that vibe. A loss of ones echo could be the cause of depression or feelings of loss
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Well no, the false king had the killing law enacted so that he could become king. All he had to do was find the unsuspecting sound of the current king killed and then they would HAVE to do the same for the King according to law.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 08:00The Killing law took advantage of the incongruous bond between an Ech o and its Sound. This idea that an Echo is part of the Sound's spirit is interesting ,but could be the very same explanationthe False King used to get the law enacted.
This is also the reason Will and Emmy were taken in the first place. The king wanted the Princes sound killed so, in turn, the prince would have to be killed as well. Emmy was taken on a whim becausethey couldnt tell her and will apart at 2, so as a precaution they were going to take and kill both
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Let me simplify it this way then.... William comes to challenge the False King for the throne, but wait, Will is in the castle so he chooses to send Fate Sealers to kill him. Because of the Killing Law which is only exempted to current Ruler (as per the False King's ammendment after taking the throne) William will have to forfeit his challenge and submit to execution since his Sound is dead. Did you understand why there is a version of the story's timeline where William dies if the False King killed Will?Kro92813 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:33Well no, the false king had the killing law enacted so that he could become king. All he had to do was find the unsuspecting sound of the current king killed and then they would HAVE to do the same for the King according to law.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 08:00The Killing law took advantage of the incongruous bond between an Ech o and its Sound. This idea that an Echo is part of the Sound's spirit is interesting ,but could be the very same explanationthe False King used to get the law enacted.
This is also the reason Will and Emmy were taken in the first place. The king wanted the Princes sound killed so, in turn, the prince would have to be killed as well. Emmy was taken on a whim becausethey couldnt tell her and will apart at 2, so as a precaution they were going to take and kill both
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I understand this - it is the major theme pushing this book forward. Kind of hard to miss!Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:39Let me simplify it this way then.... William comes to challenge the False King for the throne, but wait, Will is in the castle so he chooses to send Fate Sealers to kill him. Because of the Killing Law which is only exempted to current Ruler (as per the False King's ammendment after taking the throne) William will have to forfeit his challenge and submit to execution since his Sound is dead. Did you understand why there is a version of the story's timeline where William dies if the False King killed Will?Kro92813 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:33Well no, the false king had the killing law enacted so that he could become king. All he had to do was find the unsuspecting sound of the current king killed and then they would HAVE to do the same for the King according to law.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 08:00
The Killing law took advantage of the incongruous bond between an Ech o and its Sound. This idea that an Echo is part of the Sound's spirit is interesting ,but could be the very same explanationthe False King used to get the law enacted.
This is also the reason Will and Emmy were taken in the first place. The king wanted the Princes sound killed so, in turn, the prince would have to be killed as well. Emmy was taken on a whim becausethey couldnt tell her and will apart at 2, so as a precaution they were going to take and kill both
The previous poster and I were discussing the possibility of a spiritual connection between and echo and his/her sound. Then you chided in saying the spiritual connection was interesting and could be the reason the king put the law into place. Then I responded with why the law of death was placed. then you responded by repeating back to me what I just wrote haha we are going in circles here Ferdinand
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I'm officially breaking that cycle...breaking the wheel.lolKro92813 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 13:08I understand this - it is the major theme pushing this book forward. Kind of hard to miss!Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:39Let me simplify it this way then.... William comes to challenge the False King for the throne, but wait, Will is in the castle so he chooses to send Fate Sealers to kill him. Because of the Killing Law which is only exempted to current Ruler (as per the False King's ammendment after taking the throne) William will have to forfeit his challenge and submit to execution since his Sound is dead. Did you understand why there is a version of the story's timeline where William dies if the False King killed Will?Kro92813 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:33
Well no, the false king had the killing law enacted so that he could become king. All he had to do was find the unsuspecting sound of the current king killed and then they would HAVE to do the same for the King according to law.
This is also the reason Will and Emmy were taken in the first place. The king wanted the Princes sound killed so, in turn, the prince would have to be killed as well. Emmy was taken on a whim becausethey couldnt tell her and will apart at 2, so as a precaution they were going to take and kill both
The previous poster and I were discussing the possibility of a spiritual connection between and echo and his/her sound. Then you chided in saying the spiritual connection was interesting and could be the reason the king put the law into place. Then I responded with why the law of death was placed. then you responded by repeating back to me what I just wrote haha we are going in circles here Ferdinand
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Absolutely on board with this idea, resonates with my ideas of the bookKro92813 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 07:07I like this idea! That the echo is sort of like a part of our spirit. And their lucidity kind of adds to that vibe. A loss of ones echo could be the cause of depression or feelings of loss
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I think the False King used this specific argument to get the Killing Law enacted.Jade1692 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 13:53Absolutely on board with this idea, resonates with my ideas of the book
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That does help make sense of the law. I had trouble coming to terms with that while reading the book, but I'd never thought of it that way before. Thank you for sharing that.Kro92813 wrote: ↑15 Sep 2019, 23:29That's a very good point. The false king made the law as a part of his elaborate scheme to take over the throne. So I guess the answer very well could be nothing happens to the Sound if an Echo dies first and life just goes on as normal!little_nell15 wrote: ↑15 Sep 2019, 14:03 That's an interesting thought. Some kind of Fate Sealers in the Sound world who engineered accidents? But since Sounds seem to be unaware of the existence of echoes maybe not. The book makes it clear that it is an archaic law and quite unnecessary.
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After going back and rereading the chapter on the law of death, the false king did not enact this law. It was actually put into place long before he became king.Ferdinand_otieno wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 23:33I think the False King used this specific argument to get the Killing Law enacted.
The false king took over when his brother was murdered (but they made it look like he died from trying to steal the treasures under the lake). If the false king had used the law of death to take over the throne, then Wills dad (the sound) would have been killed.
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This is probably true, but I like to think that sounds could be connected to their echoes. It would def add a new depth to the story
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I still don't understand whether the law was ancient and put to rest...only reenacted by the False False King or whether it had never existed and The False King put it into effect.A G Darr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 06:45That does help make sense of the law. I had trouble coming to terms with that while reading the book, but I'd never thought of it that way before. Thank you for sharing that.Kro92813 wrote: ↑15 Sep 2019, 23:29That's a very good point. The false king made the law as a part of his elaborate scheme to take over the throne. So I guess the answer very well could be nothing happens to the Sound if an Echo dies first and life just goes on as normal!little_nell15 wrote: ↑15 Sep 2019, 14:03 That's an interesting thought. Some kind of Fate Sealers in the Sound world who engineered accidents? But since Sounds seem to be unaware of the existence of echoes maybe not. The book makes it clear that it is an archaic law and quite unnecessary.