There is no "I" in team
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ernest mwangemi wrote: ↑27 Nov 2019, 12:24 Military situations lead to even stronger bond among the soldiers which eliminates the “i” and makes it we.
Yes, working together in a military situation, especially combat, does tend to lead to strong bonds forming. In my experience, it wasn't even a matter of having to 'learn' to work together or 'make' it happen; it just naturally formed. Of course, there will always be the one or two who refuse even to try to be team players, and that puts everyone at risk. Thank you all for dropping in and sharing your thoughts!AntoineOMEGA wrote: ↑28 Nov 2019, 20:40 I think in any war a group of soldiers has to learn to work with each other because if they do not then they could put each other and themselves at risk.
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I was 'lucky' enough to get deployed with my (then) husband, so even though we were in different specialties and units, we were able to arrange to see each other far more than most spouses during deployments. Even there, a continent away, the 'spats' between units, ranks, etc. were present. But, as you said, the camaraderie and steadfast support was an overarching presence. I was surprised and pleased at how well the author was able to convey that sense of camaraderie and support in the book. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!AvidBibliophile wrote: ↑28 Nov 2019, 14:51 Having been a military spouse years ago, I experienced firsthand what so many soldiers and families go through, especially during deployments. The animosity and critical judgments between ranks, branches, and even MOS codes is certainly palpable at times, but I think the true camaraderie is steadfast and omnipresent. It was nice to read how even new recruits or men coming aboard for the first time were assisted by those with more experience in learning the ship's layout and everyday routine. Wartime maneuvers (and VA involvement after-the-fact) certainly require a "team approach" for maximum effectiveness.
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With respect, thank you.Kelyn wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 00:04I was 'lucky' enough to get deployed with my (then) husband, so even though we were in different specialties and units, we were able to arrange to see each other far more than most spouses during deployments. Even there, a continent away, the 'spats' between units, ranks, etc. were present. But, as you said, the camaraderie and steadfast support was an overarching presence. I was surprised and pleased at how well the author was able to convey that sense of camaraderie and support in the book. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!AvidBibliophile wrote: ↑28 Nov 2019, 14:51 Having been a military spouse years ago, I experienced firsthand what so many soldiers and families go through, especially during deployments. The animosity and critical judgments between ranks, branches, and even MOS codes is certainly palpable at times, but I think the true camaraderie is steadfast and omnipresent. It was nice to read how even new recruits or men coming aboard for the first time were assisted by those with more experience in learning the ship's layout and everyday routine. Wartime maneuvers (and VA involvement after-the-fact) certainly require a "team approach" for maximum effectiveness.
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I'm glad that you share your experiences. I am proud of you. How I wish to be in the military services, sad to say, I am not capable of doing the job. I salute to all of you, guys.
Yes, working together in a military situation, especially combat, does tend to lead to strong bonds forming. In my experience, it wasn't even a matter of having to 'learn' to work together or 'make' it happen; it just naturally formed. Of course, there will always be the one or two who refuse even to try to be team players, and that puts everyone at risk. Thank you all for dropping in and sharing your thoughts!
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So true! Not only is it a time to strengthen the bonds that have been or are forming, but to begin to form new ones. And you're correct, it does seem to form rank-based groupings. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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I agree that these bonds between veterans can definitely be observed, but I'm not so sure that it comes merely from the similarity of simply 'serving one's country." As you indicate, it goes deeper than that. There's that almost instinctual knowledge that you've met someone akin to you. And yes, to write a book concerning war without including that aspect would indeed be leaving out a significant occurrence between servicemen and women. Thanks so much for stopping in and sharing your thoughts with us!bb587 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 08:16 The bond that comes from serving your country is something everyone can observe. I've seen veterans who are generally introverts bloom upon meeting another veteran. It's like they automatically know, "Here is a person I can relate to even though we've never met before. This is my brother/sister." To write a book without that connection would be disingenuous.
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I agree with both of your statements. Still, I am not certain how you mean "adjustment" in relation to the feeling of camaraderie and family found in military and combat situations. I also agree that these are certainly lifeskills seen in Deadly Waters. I would love to hear your thoughts on how this relates to the wording of your statements. Thanks for dropping by. I hope to hear from you again!Nkoo wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 13:06 When one finds one's self in unfamiliar and foreign terrain, they can only adjust; this adjustment will lead them to doing the best they can as well as making the best of what they have. This lifeskill is evident in Deadly Waters: The Vietnam Naval War And Its Aftermath.
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Well said. I would say it is like the saying goes "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
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