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Everydayadventure15 wrote:
22 Nov 2019, 09:05
I was surprised about how far the rivalry between the Navy and Marines went. I didn’t realize there was that much hate between them so the depth of brutality and retaliation against the Marine Lieutenant was eye opening (although he was a big jerk, they left him in really bad shape).
Same here! I had no clue that there was so much animosity between the two groups.

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21 Nov 2019, 19:40
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18 Nov 2019, 22:13
I was surprised to learn that the military dropped over 19 million gallons of Agent Orange on Vietnam. That seemed like overkill. It was hard to believe that the military thought that Agent Orange was not dangerous to humans or animals, but it would kill all plant life!

I was also a bit surprised that there was great animosity between the Navy and the Marines. The fighting each other seemed out of control when they had a bigger enemy to fight.
I was also surprised by the animosity between the Navy and the Marines. I thought they all believed that they were fighting on the same side and, therefore were comrades.
I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who was surprised by this! I had the same thought that since they were fighting on the same side, there would be a sense of loyalty.

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I am not surprised that the army used so much Agent Orange. They continue to this day to do unconscionable things to unsuspecting soldiers like providing earplugs that do not work, and protective clothing that doesn't protect.

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15 Nov 2019, 04:50
I don't know if this is related but I was really surprised that white people called other whites Yankees 'cause of their accent. It really bothers me.
I was surprised by the civil war tensions between northerners and southerners in this war. I hear Vietnam war and I don’t think about previous war affecting the environment.
Though, I find it curious that their application of the Yankee term rubs you wrong. An accent can be an accurate indicator that someone is from the north. Though I will grant you that yankee seems to have been a more politically charged term back then.
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What I found surprising was the way the veterans were treated; rather than be applauded as heroes, their pensions were denied which in turn had a ripple effect on their families.

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29 Nov 2019, 21:16
I did not know about the heroin, and how the Viet Cong gave it to the American troops for very cheap, so they could get addicted, go back to the U.S. and destroy their own culture.
They also laced their marijuana with opium. 'Pot" was sold in cigarette packages so as to be easier to bring on board. (Don't ask me how I know.)

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I find the sort of hate/rivalry and borderline animosity between the navy and marines very shocking. I mean, they're fighting for the same country, aren't they? Mad!

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What surprised me was how Zack was met with disrespect when he returned back to the US and someone even threw him a milkshake.

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La Cabra wrote:
21 Dec 2019, 10:33
I find the sort of hate/rivalry and borderline animosity between the navy and marines very shocking. I mean, they're fighting for the same country, aren't they? Mad!
I absolutely agree with you. I was really surprised that soldiers of the same country hated each other that much and wanted to ruin each other.

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Mine is not a passage but a body.The VA! I was so surprised at the inhumane treatment accorded to the deserving veterans by a body that was mandated with the responsibility of taking care of the veterans in the first place.

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Attack on the VA system, and the way everything proceeded it, really surprised me.
Plus the way, government system works, it really made me think.

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I feel like even though the descriptions felt out of place in the book, probably someone who was there would have thought the views were a reprove from the terrors of war.

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I was amazed at the way the soldiers treated each other as a compatriot.

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I loved the rich blend of gun powder, apes, rats plus descriptions of the various sections of the destroyer. This showed that the writer is well informed and informative and I applause Miller for that because that is how a person like me discovers more about what I did not originally know.

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La Cabra wrote:
21 Dec 2019, 10:33
I find the sort of hate/rivalry and borderline animosity between the navy and marines very shocking. I mean, they're fighting for the same country, aren't they? Mad!
This surprised me as well. It also made me wonder if that sort of thing is true in reality. Is it I'm very curious.
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