Did this book change your views on the Vietnam war?

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War is never about who is right only who is left and it changes people, places, and mindsets. This book did not truly change my views on the Vietnam War but it did give me a new perspective.

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I researched follow up actions in Congress and in the courts to determine where this issue stands today. I found that there was a Senate hearing in September of 2015. However, the Blue Water Navy Vietnam Veterans Act of 2015 failed in the Senate. I also found a January 31, 2019 article published in Smithsonian Magazine, “Court Rules ‘Blue Water’ Vietnam Veterans Are Eligible for Agent Orange Benefits.” Mr. Miller should be proud that his efforts to educate Americans on this issue have resulted in veterans finally receiving the benefits they deserve. :D

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I am a student of History. So I can tell that this kind of book it is a good inside wiew of the main characters of the war. The soldiers of diferent corp´s lived this war in their own style. The Navy had it tought but also the cavalry (7° of cavary partake this war to) and the infantry. The only ones that come more or less clean in this mess is the airforce.

In this book the main focus it´s the Navy and how a bloody mess was their part in this war. The sea part was more or less the softh one. the part in the rivers and chanels warfare was hell. Simple and clear: Hell.

Like the earth side of the war they did not kow wen the fisher boat at the side of their ship will become a vulcan of gunfire, a boarding incursion or a bobytrap to blew up them. Also in the rain limited their action range and make them vulnerable for coastal assault. An they have to stand there uncovered beacuse if their not stand there the enemy will take that posithion from them. And their docking was not the safest one. A lot of sabotage and robbery was also part of this.

This book gave me insight into the point of view of sailors and marines.

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I wrote :tiphat: Senator Roy Blunt, my senator in Missouri, and he sent me this WONDERFUL reply


"The Blue Water Navy Vietnam Veterans Act passed the Senate with my support, and was signed into law by President Trump on June 25, 2019. This law will help ensure that Vietnam-era veterans exposed to harmful chemicals, regardless of where they served, are able to get the care they need. I will continue to do my part in assuring support and honor for all of our nation’s service members, both when they deploy and return home. "

Thank you, Senator Blunt!!!!
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Twylla wrote:
30 Jan 2020, 15:05
I wrote :tiphat: Senator Roy Blunt, my senator in Missouri, and he sent me this WONDERFUL reply


"The Blue Water Navy Vietnam Veterans Act passed the Senate with my support, and was signed into law by President Trump on June 25, 2019. This law will help ensure that Vietnam-era veterans exposed to harmful chemicals, regardless of where they served, are able to get the care they need. I will continue to do my part in assuring support and honor for all of our nation’s service members, both when they deploy and return home. "

Thank you, Senator Blunt!!!!
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Here's the deal on that bill. Now instead of having to prove our feet touched the ground, with this bill we must prove our ships came within 12 miles of land. A sick vet must get hold of all his ship's logs and charts of the Vietnamese coast, then find someone who can plot Latitudes and longitudes that will hopefully prove their locations. Again, the monsoon runoff didn't magically end at 12 miles. Try doing all that when you are getting chemo and/or radiation. The real travesty here is that the Supreme Court was going to let it rightfully revert back to the original law where all you needed was a signature disease and a Vietnam Service Medal. Better for us had congress left it alone.

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That is terrible! Our representatives in congress are so out of touch, it is maddening. You said 'our'. You must be ill. Saying a prayer for you now. God bless you.

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Twylla wrote:
08 Feb 2020, 21:57
That is terrible! Our representatives in congress are so out of touch, it is maddening. You said 'our'. You must be ill. Saying a prayer for you now. God bless you.
No Twyla, as of now I remain healthy. Because of my service, I have had the presumption of exposure since the early days. this book plus years of my life have been about getting my brothers the help they needed. If you go to the Deadly Waters Amazon webpage, and scroll to the very, very back of the book you will see that I have just recently added an addendum that you might find of interest. Many thanks for your keen insight and support of this cause, Randy Miller

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This book has changed my view about war and it's affects and very beautifully this book lights on this issue.

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I think I believe there should not have been the war at all. Well, that's true for every war, but Vietnam stands out for me. And I do believe the war was never really won. This book opened a window to the naval activities I had not read about earlier.

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It has not changed my perception about the vietnam war rather, it gave me deeper insight on what I already know

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To have never experienced any war in your country is such a huge blessing. Warmongers make me wonder if there is any shred of humanity in them.

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It's funny how love is that which kills the most. Many wars broke out due to the "love" for their country and their people. Many soldiers have fallen while believing what they are doing is correct. Could they have known that beyond their muzzles, there are also people who fight for their faith and family? It's not wrong if you love. It's only wrong if you direct your love towards the false target.

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MrunalT wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 05:38
I think I believe there should not have been the war at all. Well, that's true for every war, but Vietnam stands out for me. And I do believe the war was never really won. This book opened a window to the naval activities I had not read about earlier.
"war was never won"- well said. In a wider sense, no war can ever be won. There are losses on both sides.

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I have family that served during the Vietnam war and I would love to know more about what went on during this time in history. I am intrigued to read this book and share with my daughter who is always wanting to know more.

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