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Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 25 Dec 2019, 14:53
by Erin Painter Baker
Karina Nowak wrote: 23 Dec 2019, 16:53
AntonelaMaria wrote: 18 Dec 2019, 17:23 I read in one of these topics about this book, I can't remember which one, how someone described this book as simple and light reading. I'm leaning towards that opinion too. I think all your points have merit. But maybe we are trying to look too much into it. Maybe we expect too much from this book.
I was going to say exactly this. Not every book needs to have an answer for every question. And there are readers that will appreciate it just the way it is. The author probably should label it differently though, as crime and mystery fans will be disappointed. Too many dead ends that lead nowhere.
I disagree. A book needs to answer every question it has raised. Books are not real life. (It's one of the reasons so many of us like reading them.) If a book raises a question, the book needs to answer that question satisfactorily for the readers, or somehow make it explicit that it is not answering the question for purposes of sequel or (on philosophical matters) for the purpose of making the reader think about those questions and answer them for themselves.

Sadly, I have not been impressed with any of this author's work, and the fact that she writes these threads and then just leaves them dangling is one of the reasons.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 26 Dec 2019, 15:23
by Kaitlyn Canedy
Honestly, I do feel that many threads fizzled out. I do feel that the genre of this book didn't seem to fit very well. Mystery seems to work much better than romance does. True, there are romantic elements involved, but I felt that there was much more mystery to this book than anything else.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 26 Dec 2019, 19:52
by Jeremie Mondejar
[Danielle] wrote: 25 Dec 2019, 12:48 The part that bothered me the most was how many of the characters we were introduced to at the beginning (and whom I found very interesting) were almost removed from the story entirely after more of Team USA were introduced. I wanted more from Dr. Kinney, the Koreans that resisted, Soujinn, another T.V. segment... It felt like the author forgot about those threads of the story.
I also wonder about that, it makes the story a bit hanging. It sounds that the readers will be the one to think the possible scenario of those left behind.
I guess, some characters will be in the another series, like Cynthia and Sky.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 26 Dec 2019, 20:03
by Jeremie Mondejar
Katie Canedy wrote: 26 Dec 2019, 15:23 Honestly, I do feel that many threads fizzled out. I do feel that the genre of this book didn't seem to fit very well. Mystery seems to work much better than romance does. True, there are romantic elements involved, but I felt that there was much more mystery to this book than anything else.
The book has many things to wonder because the plot of the events resulted in several closest possible genre; it can be in the Crime, Thriller, Mystery, Romance, and etc. I guess, mystery is the closest one as you notice it because the characters are not yet fully revealed.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 26 Dec 2019, 20:15
by Jeremie Mondejar
esp1975 wrote:
Sadly, I have not been impressed with any of this author's work, and the fact that she writes these threads and then just leaves them dangling is one of the reasons.
I thought, the books in a series will usually have the same style as this series; the left behind characters will be found in another series. Thank you for the tips.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 27 Dec 2019, 10:25
by Letora
Cotwani wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 08:06 I couldn’t help wondering ‘what was that about’ in some sections of the plot. The author would give something a lot of attention, then just stop building on it. For example, Kelly’s ominous premonition when the team had to break into the terrorist’s shop, prepared me for something unforeseen happening. Even after their successful operation, it looked like she was getting sick or something. But no, that was the end of the matter! I wondered the same about Dr. Kinney's interview and Kim Jung Lo’s (chief scientist) sabotage and subsequent discovery.

Did you come across situations you couldn’t place in the overall plot, or was everything relevant for effective suspense-building?
The entire section with Jung Lo confused me. I didn't see the point in telling his side of the story. When he escaped, I didn't really care.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 04:32
by AntonelaMaria
esp1975 wrote: 25 Dec 2019, 14:53
Karina Nowak wrote: 23 Dec 2019, 16:53
AntonelaMaria wrote: 18 Dec 2019, 17:23 I read in one of these topics about this book, I can't remember which one, how someone described this book as simple and light reading. I'm leaning towards that opinion too. I think all your points have merit. But maybe we are trying to look too much into it. Maybe we expect too much from this book.
I was going to say exactly this. Not every book needs to have an answer for every question. And there are readers that will appreciate it just the way it is. The author probably should label it differently though, as crime and mystery fans will be disappointed. Too many dead ends that lead nowhere.
I disagree. A book needs to answer every question it has raised. Books are not real life. (It's one of the reasons so many of us like reading them.) If a book raises a question, the book needs to answer that question satisfactorily for the readers, or somehow make it explicit that it is not answering the question for purposes of sequel or (on philosophical matters) for the purpose of making the reader think about those questions and answer them for themselves.

Sadly, I have not been impressed with any of this author's work, and the fact that she writes these threads and then just leaves them dangling is one of the reasons.
I have read only two books by this author. This being the second read for me. And I don't disagree with you. I just accepted that this is a good as it gets. If I would dissect all the parts of this book I would have many questions. But for my sake, I accept that this is a simple read that I can't expect too much from. Also, I don't care all that much for these characters to read more about them in future books. Someone somewhere suggested that is what the author is doing, leaving room for future books. For me that way there will never be a complete character developed book.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 04:35
by AntonelaMaria
[Danielle] wrote: 25 Dec 2019, 12:48 The part that bothered me the most was how many of the characters we were introduced to at the beginning (and whom I found very interesting) were almost removed from the story entirely after more of Team USA were introduced. I wanted more from Dr. Kinney, the Koreans that resisted, Soujinn, another T.V. segment... It felt like the author forgot about those threads of the story.
They felt very convenient for that time in the plotline. My interest was only peaked with Soo Jin. I think there was potential there for so much more.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 01 Jan 2020, 14:10
by nicole-adrianne
AntonelaMaria wrote: 18 Dec 2019, 17:23 I read in one of these topics about this book, I can't remember which one, how someone described this book as simple and light reading. I'm leaning towards that opinion too. I think all your points have merit. But maybe we are trying to look too much into it. Maybe we expect too much from this book.
I agree with you completely: many of us expected too much from this book. However, if we're not supposed to have high expectations for it, then a book should not be voted BOTM. The glowing reviews on this website and BOTM achievement really gave me high hopes, and those expectations were disappointed.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 01 Jan 2020, 14:24
by AntonelaMaria
nicole-adrianne wrote: 01 Jan 2020, 14:10
AntonelaMaria wrote: 18 Dec 2019, 17:23 I read in one of these topics about this book, I can't remember which one, how someone described this book as simple and light reading. I'm leaning towards that opinion too. I think all your points have merit. But maybe we are trying to look too much into it. Maybe we expect too much from this book.
I agree with you completely: many of us expected too much from this book. However, if we're not supposed to have high expectations for it, then a book should not be voted BOTM. The glowing reviews on this website and BOTM achievement really gave me high hopes, and those expectations were disappointed.
You are right. BOTM should be the best of the best. I think for me based on my previous reading experience with this author this was an okay read. Well, I hope your next read is a much better one.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 02 Jan 2020, 16:53
by nfdoughe
I think that this could almost be said for the whole story. It all ended rather simply and suddenly. Along the way I do think there were things that could have been explored more and characters that seemed unnecessary. I was confused with a few character's endings, like General Lee because it seemed so abrupt.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 14:56
by Kaylee Elmer
B Creech wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 19:10 I couldn't help but wonder about Kelly. When she showed such hesitation to go into the computer lab to break into the computers, and then afterward she was having an anxiety attack or something. She sits in a chair and Sharon gets her some water and covers her with a blanket and she falls asleep while the others are gathered around the computer all involved with getting more information about the terrorists. It is like they forgot about her. I expected her to wake up needing emergency care, or screaming from dreaming about the danger of what they had done, or something! But you're right, there was nothing more about it! That one definitely fizzled out! :lire4:
I think Kelly's reaction was due to the fact she was just a "normal" person. The others all had more intense crime backgrounds.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 15:19
by Brenda Creech
Kaylee123 wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 14:56
B Creech wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 19:10 I couldn't help but wonder about Kelly. When she showed such hesitation to go into the computer lab to break into the computers, and then afterward she was having an anxiety attack or something. She sits in a chair and Sharon gets her some water and covers her with a blanket and she falls asleep while the others are gathered around the computer all involved with getting more information about the terrorists. It is like they forgot about her. I expected her to wake up needing emergency care, or screaming from dreaming about the danger of what they had done, or something! But you're right, there was nothing more about it! That one definitely fizzled out! :lire4:
I think Kelly's reaction was due to the fact she was just a "normal" person. The others all had more intense crime backgrounds.
That's true. I never looked at it like that.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 04 Jan 2020, 05:22
by karendi jururi
Sadly, I have not read the book yet! However, I understand the frustration on the reader's part when an author captivates you with a lovely story in the book them sought of leaves you hanging! I do not like that at all.

Re: Threads that fizzled out (Spoiler alert!)

Posted: 04 Jan 2020, 13:08
by sarahmarlowe
Cotwani wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 08:06 I couldn’t help wondering ‘what was that about’ in some sections of the plot. The author would give something a lot of attention, then just stop building on it. For example, Kelly’s ominous premonition when the team had to break into the terrorist’s shop, prepared me for something unforeseen happening. Even after their successful operation, it looked like she was getting sick or something. But no, that was the end of the matter! I wondered the same about Dr. Kinney's interview and Kim Jung Lo’s (chief scientist) sabotage and subsequent discovery.

Did you come across situations you couldn’t place in the overall plot, or was everything relevant for effective suspense-building?
Yes, I agree! I was very put off by the little plot touches that "fizzled out." After grabbing onto situations and wanting to know more, I was let down by the lack even of explanation. I felt that maybe the author had all of these great ideas but wasn't sure which way to bring them together.