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Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 09 Dec 2019, 19:07
by ElizaBeth Adams
I found myself often wondering about whether or not the actions of the characters were realistic or not, specifically in regard to the way they handled the investigation and the terroristic threat. What do you think? What moments felt improbable? What moments were successfully crafted? Would real federal agents, etc., behave the way these characters did?
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 10:48
by Helene_2008
I agree that they were several things about the terrorists I found unbelievable. When Steve is talking to Rhee Su-jin at breakfast and she messes up her cover by not begging about to answer his questions correctly about where she lived in California. She's supposed to be highly trained and best of the best! Then when Dear Leader forgot/ didn't know which coast NYC and Washington DC were on. How could you plot a terrorist attack and not be familiar with the country's geography.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 10:57
by Erin Dydek
My take on this book was that it’s more of a mockery of a real event that could happen, but probably won’t (think funny movie like McHale’s navy or Paul Blart Mall cop). The incompetent bad guys and everything working out for the good guys made for a light-hearted comedic thriller for me.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 11:02
by Gabriel Merêncio
I didn't see many problems with the main characters' actions aside from the fact that they achieved things far too easily, often due to the antagonists' incompetence. Then there's that moment when Tom hacks into a system with just his phone in a few minutes to get information about the car plate. That's probably one the most unbelievable parts.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 13:08
by Reynaa
This is a good topic for this book.
One main thing that stood out to me as not being believable is the CIA and government in general allowing a regular cop and his wife have anything to do with the investigation.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 13:09
by Reynaa
Everydayadventure15 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 10:57
My take on this book was that it’s more of a mockery of a real event that could happen, but probably won’t (think funny movie like McHale’s navy or Paul Blart Mall cop). The incompetent bad guys and everything working out for the good guys made for a light-hearted comedic thriller for me.
That's exactly how I viewed this book. It was taken as a light-hearted, feel-good type of story.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 13:12
by Reynaa
Helene_2008 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 10:48
I agree that they were several things about the terrorists I found unbelievable. When Steve is talking to Rhee Su-jin at breakfast and she messes up her cover by not begging about to answer his questions correctly about where she lived in California. She's supposed to be highly trained and best of the best! Then when Dear Leader forgot/ didn't know which coast NYC and Washington DC were on. How could you plot a terrorist attack and not be familiar with the country's geography.
I actually think the terrorist leader's lack of intelligence was a poke at current/former leaders' intelligence and capabilities. This book was strongly patriotic for America. At least, that's how I saw it.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 17:36
by Erin Dydek
Reynaa wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 13:08
This is a good topic for this book.
One main thing that stood out to me as not being believable is the CIA and government in general allowing a regular cop and his wife have anything to do with the investigation.
Yes! I remember thinking at one point that this was a bit outside of his jurisdiction lol
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 18:28
by Reynaa
Everydayadventure15 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 17:36
Reynaa wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 13:08
This is a good topic for this book.
One main thing that stood out to me as not being believable is the CIA and government in general allowing a regular cop and his wife have anything to do with the investigation.
Yes! I remember thinking at one point that this was a bit outside of his jurisdiction lol
Haha he definitely was! And his wife is allowed to be a part of the investigation because ???... all she brings is showing them initially and conveniently can get into the computer programs.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 10 Dec 2019, 19:17
by amihughson
I feel there are so many unbelievable things, but the first thing that struck me was Kelly going to check the back of the shop (which is the catalyst for literally everything that follows). Whether she believed an employee to be out back having a smoke break or not, whether the shop is small or not, if you don't hear SOMETHING (movement, voices, etc) after yelling into the back for assistance, the typical person isn't going to go behind the counter and through a door clearly marked EMPLOYEES ONLY looking for someone.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 11 Dec 2019, 04:46
by Brenda Creech
amihughson wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 19:17
I feel there are so many unbelievable things, but the first thing that struck me was Kelly going to check the back of the shop (which is the catalyst for literally everything that follows). Whether she believed an employee to be out back having a smoke break or not, whether the shop is small or not, if you don't hear SOMETHING (movement, voices, etc) after yelling into the back for assistance, the typical person isn't going to go behind the counter and through a door clearly marked EMPLOYEES ONLY looking for someone.
I absolutely agree! Knock on the door and wait, maybe? But don't just go in! Another thing that stood out to me was how Kelly was so hesitant to go in with Steve when they went back to break into the computers! She went in when she was alone, was attacked and knew enough self-defense to get away, yet acted scared when the whole group was with her!
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 11 Dec 2019, 06:57
by AntonelaMaria
There were many things that stood out as unbelievable. I think everything that Kelly, Tom, Agatha and Steve did was a bit of a stretch. Why would CIA work with civilians? Do three trained agents need additional help from untrained Kelly? I get that Tom is a cop but still...So I agree with previous things all of you mentioned.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 11 Dec 2019, 06:58
by AntonelaMaria
Tomah wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 11:02
I didn't see many problems with the main characters' actions aside from the fact that they achieved things far too easily, often due to the antagonists' incompetence. Then there's that moment when Tom hacks into a system with just his phone in a few minutes to get information about the car plate. That's probably one the most unbelievable parts.
I agree things were very easy for them.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 11 Dec 2019, 08:59
by DC Brown
Reynaa wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 13:09
Everydayadventure15 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 10:57
My take on this book was that it’s more of a mockery of a real event that could happen, but probably won’t (think funny movie like McHale’s navy or Paul Blart Mall cop). The incompetent bad guys and everything working out for the good guys made for a light-hearted comedic thriller for me.
That's exactly how I viewed this book. It was taken as a light-hearted, feel-good type of story.
That's why I enjoyed this book so much. It was a great piece of brain candy and a real exercise in the suspension of disbelief. Strangely enough, I loved it.
Re: Believable or Not So Believable Moments
Posted: 11 Dec 2019, 09:01
by DC Brown
ElizaBeth Adams wrote: ↑09 Dec 2019, 19:07
I found myself often wondering about whether or not the actions of the characters were realistic or not, specifically in regard to the way they handled the investigation and the terroristic threat. What do you think? What moments felt improbable? What moments were successfully crafted? Would real federal agents, etc., behave the way these characters did?
For me, this was an easy read and a test of my ability to suspend disbelief. I actually loved it.