Yeah, they were very incompatible. It looks like what the protagonist wanted in a wife was lacking in Rachel. Rachel too wanted a husband who would have time with her and the family. These people we're completely the opposite of what each wanted for a spouse.
Team Rachel or team main protagonist?
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Re: Team Rachel or team main protagonist?
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Those are very good points! I think a family holiday is an absolute necessity!Julius_ wrote: ↑21 Jan 2020, 03:50Yes, or maybe the protagonist should have considered organizing for a bit of family holiday where they would spend with the family together. Hiking and going places. I have a feeling that Rachel felt that her husband didn't have time for her and the kids. Leaving Rachel to go out alone would change these feelings either.B Creech wrote: ↑04 Jan 2020, 12:20 Rachel did come across as a nagging wife at times. However, the main protagonist was totally selfish in many ways. I like the concept of the Man Missions, I think that was an awesome way to spend time with friends. However, I think the women should have had the same opportunity to go away for an annual outlet and let the guys stay home with the kids!
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I agree that Rachel was quite stubborn about the protagonist's man missions sometimes to the point of obstinacy.mhopkins wrote: ↑21 Jan 2020, 15:55 I think the hard part is that we only see the one side of the relationship. They both definitely had their faults, but I did not like Rachel's character at all. She always seemed upset by everything. If she resented his Man Missions, then she should have initiated her own "Woman Missions" doing things that she enjoyed to get a break. When she kept turning down his intimacy advances, I was pretty certain she was involved in an affair herself and was surprised that that never came out. Their whole marriage seemed rocky with a lack of communication and support of each other.
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Yup, it's true that we didn't get to know her perspectives, obviously they both led their life in a way that they've been bound to compromised( flawed or not) as well as the choices that they've made.Cotwani wrote: ↑03 Jan 2020, 08:17 I know poor communication is a verified relationship killer. All the same, I think Rachel's attitude played a big role in the final fall-out. I mean, I found her unsupportive (heck, she was opposed to man mission from day 1), selfish (wouldn't go to work), bitter and a loner (she didn't reach out to the "wives committee).
On the other hand, maybe its just that the main protagonist's character (whose name I don't remember seeing) was better fleshed out. We didn't get to hear her side of the story.
What do you opine?
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I feel exactly the same. No, it doesn't make it okay that he cheated, that they didn't communicate, or that she was unsupportive. I think they both lacked the guts to take responsibility for their actions and how it affected one another.Sugarlump54 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2020, 11:08 Marriage is so dang hard and when communication stops it’s bad. I sympathize with both characters and don’t blame either one one for what they did and who they are. I feel the same way as one responder here that the marriage seemed kind of doomed from the beginning. Maybe they married because that was supposed to be the next step in life, not because they were meant to be together.
You bring up another good point. When he first mentioned he was going to propose to Rachel,.... I dunno, after only four months of dating, if I recall correctly? I literally wrote in my notes that it seemed wayyyy to soon. Like you said, perhaps it was just the next step in their lives they felt obligated to take. Perhaps if they got married after a few more Man Missions, then they'd really see how things went.
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