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Howlan wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 08:09
Jocelyn Eastman wrote: 03 Feb 2020, 21:09 Ok I am through the entire book now and how this character’s death was handled was really weird. It seems like it was just a loose end that was tied up in the easiest way possible.
I do not think that it was tied up at all. I really hope the later books in the series will shed light on this matter.
Unless it’s brought up in terms of emotional turmoil, there almost no way to prove he was involved anymore that he did it since Carly essentially covered up the crime scene. That’s at least where I’m coming from. I suppose since we are never told where her body is that it could come up again.
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Jocelyn Eastman wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 19:42
Howlan wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 08:09
Jocelyn Eastman wrote: 03 Feb 2020, 21:09 Ok I am through the entire book now and how this character’s death was handled was really weird. It seems like it was just a loose end that was tied up in the easiest way possible.
I do not think that it was tied up at all. I really hope the later books in the series will shed light on this matter.
Unless it’s brought up in terms of emotional turmoil, there almost no way to prove he was involved anymore that he did it since Carly essentially covered up the crime scene. That’s at least where I’m coming from. I suppose since we are never told where her body is that it could come up again.
Yes her body may or may not be found. Totally depends on the author. Also, someone may have watched Adam and Terry together that night. They may have not come forward due to Adam's dangerous character but may confront Adam later in the series.
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That whole situation never got resolved. Adam KILLED her and faced no consequences. Even when he tells Carly, her feelings for him don't change and he is forgiven.

I don't care how much I love someone if I found out that they kidnapped someone and they ended up dying by their hand, my feelings would be altered.
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Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.
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That whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. He kidnapped her and then Terry accidentally killed herself. I am curious how will everything pan out later on. But I just don't get it. There is no consistency in characterization. And that makes this story not believable.
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AntonelaMaria wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 08:38 That whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. He kidnapped her and then Terry accidentally killed herself. I am curious how will everything pan out later on. But I just don't get it. There is no consistency in characterization. And that makes this story not believable.
It doesn't get much better... :good-luck-smiley: :gaah:
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gilliansisley wrote: 06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

Exactly! Carly like forgives him and covers up the crime for him... "oh it's ok, you didn't know you had superpowers... mistakes happen"

In the end, I almost felt like we were supposed to feel that the Terry thing is something bad that happened TO Adam... and then no regard for Terry...
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Nym182 wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 15:40
gilliansisley wrote: 06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

Exactly! Carly like forgives him and covers up the crime for him... "oh it's ok, you didn't know you had superpowers... mistakes happen"

In the end, I almost felt like we were supposed to feel that the Terry thing is something bad that happened TO Adam... and then no regard for Terry...
Exactly! It's like, oh poor Adam, if she had not been so panicked and freaked out then she wouldn't have died, that was her bad and now you have to live with the burden of it...

He should have been ARRESTED and CHARGED with kidnapping, attempted sexual assault and manslaughter. But nah, it's all good, because we're too busy over here making some high school fluffy love happen. Priorities!
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Nym182 wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 15:40
gilliansisley wrote: 06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

Exactly! Carly like forgives him and covers up the crime for him... "oh it's ok, you didn't know you had superpowers... mistakes happen"

In the end, I almost felt like we were supposed to feel that the Terry thing is something bad that happened TO Adam... and then no regard for Terry...
What did I just read?! Wow this book is just really bad. "Terry thing is something bad that happened TO Adam" 100 %b agree with you on this one...Terry is casuality. I just do not understand what is the purpose of it all.
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AntonelaMaria wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 16:16
Nym182 wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 15:40
gilliansisley wrote: 06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

Exactly! Carly like forgives him and covers up the crime for him... "oh it's ok, you didn't know you had superpowers... mistakes happen"

In the end, I almost felt like we were supposed to feel that the Terry thing is something bad that happened TO Adam... and then no regard for Terry...
What did I just read?! Wow this book is just really bad. "Terry thing is something bad that happened TO Adam" 100 %b agree with you on this one...Terry is casuality. I just do not understand what is the purpose of it all.
You know, you brought up a very interesting aspect of how insulting that whole scene is to someone who has survived sexual assault (and I am very sorry that that happened to you dear) It's essentially saying "it's ok to do that to someone if you have a good reason... like finding out you have superpowers..."
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gilliansisley wrote: 06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.
I really don't even know why did we had that pages with Terry. It didn't bring anything to the plotline or characters besides make me more upset with the whole book. What was the author thinking? This is truly problematic. I am appealed how after he kidnaps her suddenly he just switched personality and he is all" oh don't be upset with this stranger shackled you, calm down" Like she is to blame for her own death. Terry died for nothing! On the other note, sorry for what happened to you.
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You're too sweet, thank you for your kind words.

I entirely agree with how annoying his behaviour was. Adam was basically getting frustrated that she was panicking, and was annoyed that she wouldn't believe he meant no harm after kidapping her and bringing her to his creep sex shack in the middle of the woods!

She dies, and he's like "Oh no! What an unfortunate accident which was not in any way my fault at all, period!"

No clue what the purpose was. Completely ruined the entire book for me.
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I feel Terry deserved better and justice for what happened to her. It was treated fairly casual. Thoughts?
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I absolutely agree that the situation with Terry was treated way too casual. I think they should have at least found her body to give her family closure. Whether the author wanted Adam to face any consequences for what he did or not Terry's situation should have been expanded more instead of just mentioned and then forgotten.
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Team Terry!
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