MILF fantasies and mental health

Odette Chace · Post by **Odette Chace** » 09 Apr 2020, 14:19

GatugiM wrote: ↑08 Apr 2020, 20:40
Odette Chace wrote: ↑15 Mar 2020, 15:06 I didn't think Adam's infatuation with his mother was necessary. The scene with Terry was more than enough for shock value. I also thought he was mentally unstable at first because of his obsession with telekinesis.
I agree. However, It wouldn't make sense because the serum drew Adam close to his mother and kept her young. At first he comes off as a total pervert and killing Terry? That was on another level, I didn't see how it fits with the story.

What wouldn't make sense?

The author could have easily left it out. Animals frequently pay no notice to other species (unless they are food). That doesn't mean that he needed to be sexually attracted to his mother. He could have just felt like his mother was the only one he was on the same page as.

hasincla · Post by **hasincla** » 11 Apr 2020, 15:07

I just started the book, and I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I really hope that she's not his "real" mother, which makes is more palatable for me personally.

Brielle_S · Post by **Brielle_S** » 18 Apr 2020, 23:22

I didn't feel as though this element of the story was a crucial part of the plot. I think that it was probably added to create some sort of wow factor.

JKO · Post by **JKO** » 19 Apr 2020, 09:58

I think Adam didn't even understand himself at first. So being attracted to his mom and jealous of his father came from that baggage. I think he turned out well in the end though.

Ariely 20 · Post by **Ariely 20** » 19 Apr 2020, 15:31

I think it was for shock value as well as character development. It is a good thing the writer didn't take it very far, it would have been a turn-off.

Coud · Post by **Coud** » 19 Apr 2020, 15:41

I've just started the book and I'm not gonna lie that wasn't t something I expected to happen but I'm totally sure that hes feelings are genuine but very shocking

JaimeAlfonzo · Post by **JaimeAlfonzo** » 19 Apr 2020, 19:01

First, I will not call an Oedipus complex and MILF complex. The attraction of Adam to his mother it is a clear Oedipus Complex. Nevertheless, the using of Oedipus or Electra complex it is natural on literature as 429 B.C. when Sophocles made i the first presentation of Oedipus Rex, or one more recent case in Psyco by Hitchcock.

Marlaszw · Post by **Marlaszw** » 20 Apr 2020, 08:12

I do not feel this is at all appropriate for teens. Frankly, it is disgusting and far from normal. I don’t care who this mom ends up being in the end, if she raised Adam as her son then it is a mother son relationship and their is no possible justification for the attraction. A mother son relationship is NOT sexual. Even some of the more subtle affections in the book are disturbing because they are not how healthy moms and teen sons relate. This also makes it feel contrived to me. I’m sorry, it is just wrong and I can’t image many young adults not being completely repulsed by this book. Maybe a girl could get through it, but all the teen boys I know would throw away the minute they realized this sick dude was sexually fantasizing about his mother.

Laura Lee · Post by **Laura Lee** » 20 Apr 2020, 18:25

Marlaszw wrote: ↑20 Apr 2020, 08:12 I do not feel this is at all appropriate for teens. Frankly, it is disgusting and far from normal. I don’t care who this mom ends up being in the end, if she raised Adam as her son then it is a mother son relationship and their is no possible justification for the attraction. A mother son relationship is NOT sexual. Even some of the more subtle affections in the book are disturbing because they are not how healthy moms and teen sons relate. This also makes it feel contrived to me. I’m sorry, it is just wrong and I can’t image many young adults not being completely repulsed by this book. Maybe a girl could get through it, but all the teen boys I know would throw away the minute they realized this sick dude was sexually fantasizing about his mother.

Honestly, I feel the exact same way. I don't care the "spin" put on it to make it acceptable. It doesn't make his jealousy of his father and attraction to his mother acceptable. It just grosses me out.

gayscott · Post by **gayscott** » 22 Apr 2020, 18:02

I didn't think it added to the story. It only made ot more complicated and I honestly almost stopped reading.

NatRose · Post by **NatRose** » 22 Apr 2020, 18:27

I don't think MILF is quite the right term because Adam's attraction to his mom wasn't because she was older. In fact, it was probably partially because she didn't age.

Regardless, I agree with many others here that Adam's attraction to his mother was an unnecessary part of the story, and the explanation for it that's brought to light later in the book really didn't fix things for me. I think the book would probably be much easier to relate to for most young adults if Adam simply had a good relationship with his mom and a strained relationship with his dad without the sexual overtones.

Still, I'm not sure the author intended this aspect of the book to be for shock value. In the note from the author, she says she wants us to "realize that there's hope for all seemingly troubled young adults." Well I agree with her sentiment, I don't think the book actually relays this because Adam is able to just overcome his troubles with supernatural means and explanations that us in the real world don't have access to. If the author wants to confront such a taboo subject, I would prefer she show that it's possible to overcome such things through therapy and a desire to change.

Netvigator72 · Post by **Netvigator72** » 23 Apr 2020, 03:35

Ever_Reading wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 01:55 I'm finding it rather strange and can't possibly figure out why it's important to the plot. I am not yet done with the book, so maybe my view on it will change. But for now, I remain skeptical for sure.

I would love to know what you think afterwards since this thought didn’t fail to leave me even after I finished the book.

Laura Lee · Post by **Laura Lee** » 23 Apr 2020, 16:31

NatRose wrote: ↑22 Apr 2020, 18:27 I don't think MILF is quite the right term because Adam's attraction to his mom wasn't because she was older. In fact, it was probably partially because she didn't age.

Regardless, I agree with many others here that Adam's attraction to his mother was an unnecessary part of the story, and the explanation for it that's brought to light later in the book really didn't fix things for me. I think the book would probably be much easier to relate to for most young adults if Adam simply had a good relationship with his mom and a strained relationship with his dad without the sexual overtones.

Still, I'm not sure the author intended this aspect of the book to be for shock value. In the note from the author, she says she wants us to "realize that there's hope for all seemingly troubled young adults." Well I agree with her sentiment, I don't think the book actually relays this because Adam is able to just overcome his troubles with supernatural means and explanations that us in the real world don't have access to. If the author wants to confront such a taboo subject, I would prefer she show that it's possible to overcome such things through therapy and a desire to change.

I appreciate your well-thought-out, eloquent opinion. I agree with your assessment. Adam's fixation on his mother ruined the story for me, personally. I think the author could have selected another way to make her point without grossing out so many readers.

Kishor Rao · Post by **Kishor Rao** » 23 Apr 2020, 23:51

I just thought he was a creep when the book started. Adam himself knows he should not be feeling such things. The explanation they gave was fair enough as for why was he feeling the things he was but I don't think it was absolutely necessary and we could have done without it as well.

sacredheartsbookclub · Post by **sacredheartsbookclub** » 24 Apr 2020, 09:40

Laura Lee wrote: ↑01 Feb 2020, 21:02
Abacus wrote: ↑01 Feb 2020, 14:11 I have only read the sample, so cannot speak for the entire story. I suppose every author relates to the Oedipus complex and would use it if the opportunity arose. It does have shock value. It is a good question, and If I read more, I shall look for the answer.
Thanks for your reply. Honestly, I find this element quite off-putting. Just curious to hear from others.

I also find this element to be quite off-putting in stories. It tends to distract from the overall narrative in my opinion.