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AntonelaMaria wrote: ↑07 Feb 2020, 17:03

gilliansisley wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

I really don't even know why did we had that pages with Terry. It didn't bring anything to the plotline or characters besides make me more upset with the whole book. What was the author thinking? This is truly problematic. I am appealed how after he kidnaps her suddenly he just switched personality and he is all" oh don't be upset with this stranger shackled you, calm down" Like she is to blame for her own death. Terry died for nothing! On the other note, sorry for what happened to you.

gilliansisley wrote: ↑07 Feb 2020, 18:29 You're too sweet, thank you for your kind words.

I entirely agree with how annoying his behaviour was. Adam was basically getting frustrated that she was panicking, and was annoyed that she wouldn't believe he meant no harm after kidapping her and bringing her to his creep sex shack in the middle of the woods!

She dies, and he's like "Oh no! What an unfortunate accident which was not in any way my fault at all, period!"

No clue what the purpose was. Completely ruined the entire book for me.

gilliansisley wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑10 Feb 2020, 16:42

gilliansisley wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault as well. Oddly enough, this part of the book didn't trigger any of those memories. It mostly made me scratch my head that Adam didn't seem to feel any real remorse about someone getting killed because of his self-absorbed behavior. And Carly's attitude was peculiar as well. It was like "well, he did kidnap someone, and she did die because of his actions, but, heck, let's burn this place down and pretend none of it ever happened. Whaaaaat???

Nym182 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2020, 16:52

ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑10 Feb 2020, 16:42

gilliansisley wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault as well. Oddly enough, this part of the book didn't trigger any of those memories. It mostly made me scratch my head that Adam didn't seem to feel any real remorse about someone getting killed because of his self-absorbed behavior. And Carly's attitude was peculiar as well. It was like "well, he did kidnap someone, and she did die because of his actions, but, heck, let's burn this place down and pretend none of it ever happened. Whaaaaat???

I kept thinking that the author was setting up him being a psychopath due to his lack of emotions! Did you get the sense like the whole Terry thing was supposed to be something that "happened" to him? (that's what I started to feel after Carly burned down the den due to both of their lack of remorse or concern about Terry)

ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑10 Feb 2020, 16:38

gilliansisley wrote: ↑07 Feb 2020, 18:29 You're too sweet, thank you for your kind words.

I entirely agree with how annoying his behaviour was. Adam was basically getting frustrated that she was panicking, and was annoyed that she wouldn't believe he meant no harm after kidapping her and bringing her to his creep sex shack in the middle of the woods!

She dies, and he's like "Oh no! What an unfortunate accident which was not in any way my fault at all, period!"

No clue what the purpose was. Completely ruined the entire book for me.

You summed it up very well. Perhaps he could have accidentally destroyed a car or something to discover his powers, or accidentally unleashed a tornado on his own creepy sex shack. But no, a person had to die so he could learn his lesson, and then nobody even seems to give a rip about her death. What???

ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑10 Feb 2020, 16:42

gilliansisley wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 20:32 Truthfully, I despised Adam from the moment of Terry's death (well, it was weird when he lusted for his mom too, so our start before that wasn't great), and I spent the entire book resenting him for kidnapping her with chloroform, almost raping her, and then ultimately causing her death.

Despite all the character development, I couldn't get passed this, and the fact that Adam was the cause of her losing her life. And it's just like... No big thing for the main characters. Because Adam and Carly have super powers so woohoo it's no biggie and everything's fine and magical.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault. Terry's kidnapping, attempted rape and ultimate death were hugely upsetting to me. I cannot fathom how this classifies as YA fiction. Each time Terry's death was minimized, I had to ward off tears and upset. I didn't give a sh*t about Adam's powers and character progression-- what about justice for Terry?

When I read about characters in books, I try to humanize them. And reading what happened to Terry, and that in the end it basically didn't matter at all, was so horrendously cruel to me. I read the entire rest of the book in resentment.

I'm a survivor of sexual assault as well. Oddly enough, this part of the book didn't trigger any of those memories. It mostly made me scratch my head that Adam didn't seem to feel any real remorse about someone getting killed because of his self-absorbed behavior. And Carly's attitude was peculiar as well. It was like "well, he did kidnap someone, and she did die because of his actions, but, heck, let's burn this place down and pretend none of it ever happened. Whaaaaat???

Chelsearoses wrote: ↑08 Feb 2020, 18:20 Spoilers

I feel Terry deserved better and justice for what happened to her. It was treated fairly casual. Thoughts?