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Re: Adam

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 12:32
by Salma_asa
I agree with you. Adam being a villain makes much more sense. This is not a suitable for young people anyway. So, anti-hero storyline would have been better.

Adam: Anti-hero?

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 17:17
by Lisa A Rayburn
The Oxford Free Dictionary defines an "anti-hero" as (1) A flawed hero or (2) a prominent central character who does the right thing, but maybe not for the right reasons. Let's face it, Adam can't be called 'virtuous' by any stretch of the imagination. (Just remember Terry.) However, he does sometimes come off, in my opinion, as a (seriously) flawed hero figure in the story. In what way(s) do you think he embodied this description...or not? Why?

Re: Adam

Posted: 10 Feb 2020, 17:31
by AntoineOMEGA
The way Adam acted made the book rather misleading and I just did not like the beginning to start with.

Re: Adam

Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 09:26
by Kristy Khem
I agree with you about Adam. Naturally, he would fit in as the villain although that wasn't quite the case. His character is complex and a tad bit confusing. Perhaps the author found that Adam as the villain would have been too predictable for the story. However, characters need to be likable or relatable for readers to want to read a book. To me, Adam was neither likable nor relatable. He made me feel uncomfortable.

Re: Adam

Posted: 13 Feb 2020, 04:16
by Howlan
KristyKhem wrote: 11 Feb 2020, 09:26 I agree with you about Adam. Naturally, he would fit in as the villain although that wasn't quite the case. His character is complex and a tad bit confusing. Perhaps the author found that Adam as the villain would have been too predictable for the story. However, characters need to be likable or relatable for readers to want to read a book. To me, Adam was neither likable nor relatable. He made me feel uncomfortable.
Yes, definitely a confusing troupe for a YA novel.

Re: Adam: Anti-hero?

Posted: 13 Feb 2020, 10:17
by Jocelyn Eastman
Kelyn wrote: 10 Feb 2020, 17:17 The Oxford Free Dictionary defines an "anti-hero" as (1) A flawed hero or (2) a prominent central character who does the right thing, but maybe not for the right reasons. Let's face it, Adam can't be called 'virtuous' by any stretch of the imagination. (Just remember Terry.) However, he does sometimes come off, in my opinion, as a (seriously) flawed hero figure in the story. In what way(s) do you think he embodied this description...or not? Why?
Technically he is the anti hero, but to me Carly and Dauma are more the heroes of this story and Adam becomes secondary to them. Adam didn’t really sacrifice himself like Carly did, nor did he take on the transfer of knowledge and power like Carly did.

Re: Adam: Anti-hero?

Posted: 13 Feb 2020, 11:53
by Howlan
Jocelyn Eastman wrote: 13 Feb 2020, 10:17
Kelyn wrote: 10 Feb 2020, 17:17 The Oxford Free Dictionary defines an "anti-hero" as (1) A flawed hero or (2) a prominent central character who does the right thing, but maybe not for the right reasons. Let's face it, Adam can't be called 'virtuous' by any stretch of the imagination. (Just remember Terry.) However, he does sometimes come off, in my opinion, as a (seriously) flawed hero figure in the story. In what way(s) do you think he embodied this description...or not? Why?
Technically he is the anti hero, but to me Carly and Dauma are more the heroes of this story and Adam becomes secondary to them. Adam didn’t really sacrifice himself like Carly did, nor did he take on the transfer of knowledge and power like Carly did.
Yes, that may be true but the main protagonist of this book is Adam. The entire story revolves around him.

Re: Adam

Posted: 13 Feb 2020, 13:20
by writestuff
He may make a half decent anti-hero but a better villain. He just seems abusive and he kills a girl...that's the first impression.

Re: Adam

Posted: 14 Feb 2020, 11:26
by nfdoughe
I never liked Adam, so I could absolutely believe he's the villain. It would only take a little bit to push him over that edge. I think he's better suited to being a villain than a hero. He's got way more experience with dark thoughts than not at this point. And I think it would be good to have his love for Carly revealed for what it is: unhealthy. She's stronger than he is, and he treats her like she's glass. But I don't have any hope that these issues will be fixed. It aims to fit that YA mold, so I don't think we'll see anything original here.

Re: Adam

Posted: 14 Feb 2020, 13:47
by Jezebelle84
I don't like Adam. i didn't like him from the start. His behaviour is psychopathic. Meeting Carly changes him, but that kind of behaviour and thinking doesn't just go away. I felt the author really phoned it in with the serum in his mother's veins being the reason he was in love with her. It was like the author just waved it away. I don't believe that not being around other people who are genetically mutated like him would cause that kind of psychosis and that suddenly meeting people like him would magically make it go away. The author had the opportunity to deal with some real mental illness and then just waved it away.

Re: Adam

Posted: 15 Feb 2020, 07:11
by Cristina Chifane
I'm still not convinced Adam is not the villain. :) Seriously speaking, Adam's oscillation between light and darkness could have been handled better so that his behavioral changes wouldn't feel awkward at times.

Re: Adam

Posted: 15 Feb 2020, 12:52
by Nym182
writestuff wrote: 13 Feb 2020, 13:20 He may make a half decent anti-hero but a better villain. He just seems abusive and he kills a girl...that's the first impression.
It would have been much better if he was the villain, especially after Carly cops feelings for him!

Re: Adam

Posted: 15 Feb 2020, 12:53
by Nym182
Jezebelle84 wrote: 14 Feb 2020, 13:47 I don't like Adam. i didn't like him from the start. His behaviour is psychopathic. Meeting Carly changes him, but that kind of behaviour and thinking doesn't just go away. I felt the author really phoned it in with the serum in his mother's veins being the reason he was in love with her. It was like the author just waved it away. I don't believe that not being around other people who are genetically mutated like him would cause that kind of psychosis and that suddenly meeting people like him would magically make it go away. The author had the opportunity to deal with some real mental illness and then just waved it away.
I agree, years of psycopathic behavoir don't just away because you find out about a serum!

Re: Adam

Posted: 15 Feb 2020, 12:54
by Nym182
cristinaro wrote: 15 Feb 2020, 07:11 I'm still not convinced Adam is not the villain. :) Seriously speaking, Adam's oscillation between light and darkness could have been handled better so that his behavioral changes wouldn't feel awkward at times.
I think that is the only thing that could save this story! It would be such a bummer if the author didn't take the opportunity to play with that oscillation you pointed out!

Re: Adam

Posted: 18 Feb 2020, 17:50
by char8026
I haven't made it all the way through the book yet, but I am torn with Adam. His character seems to be quite dark, more so than a regular teenager. I am not sure where his relationship with Carly is going, but he seems to be a bit overprotective and controlling. I am anxious to keep reading and find out more of him and if he does change.