I absolutely agree! Dauma did lose her husband, but Carly had also just lost her father. I felt that it was selfish of Dauma to do that, because now Carly had 'lost' her mother as well and that is a lot for any person to handle, especially a teenager.cristinaro wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 04:41 I could resonate with Dauma's decision if I accept her own explanation, that she could not live without her half. However, I don't think her action was an act of self-sacrifice. On the contrary, I would say that she abandoned her daughter when she needed her most.
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You're right! I'm interested to see what comes from this merger in the next book! With that way this book went, I'm sure that it'll be something surprising and unexpected.nfdoughe wrote: ↑14 Feb 2020, 11:38 I think we still don't have all the facts on the implications of their merger. Dauma is supposedly this genius so I wouldn't assume she's done anything stupid. I do think it partly had something to do with her husband's death since she said it was painful to be without him. It's also something of their family tradition as she mentions her father merging with his mother and also merging with her. I thought it was an interesting part of the story. The consequences are probably not fully apparent yet.
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Interesting! I hadn't considered the possibility of negative consequences, but that is certainly something to keep in mind for the next book. I'm interested to see how Carly deals with the aftermath of this merger.Nym182 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 13:10That is one thing I do find compelling about the merger... There has got to be at least some negative consequence from such a drastic move!nfdoughe wrote: ↑14 Feb 2020, 11:38 I think we still don't have all the facts on the implications of their merger. Dauma is supposedly this genius so I wouldn't assume she's done anything stupid. I do think it partly had something to do with her husband's death since she said it was painful to be without him. It's also something of their family tradition as she mentions her father merging with his mother and also merging with her. I thought it was an interesting part of the story. The consequences are probably not fully apparent yet.
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I completely agree with the perspective of maternal self-sacrifice being the ultimate gift of ongoing life for your child, but this particular instance reiterates that perhaps no one is in the right headspace to make life and death decisions when they are already feeling grief-stricken and distraught; that emotional-complicator certainly made the motives more fuzzy.KDJ wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 17:34 I kind of think that all mothers would do that. In this particular situation, she was also so distraught over her husband's murder that I think when she used too much energy to kill the militants, she may have been trying to commit suicide. That's just what I think. What better way to leave your daughter with generations of insight and power, so she can continue to fight the Iksha.
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Yes, she should have been there for Carly. She gave up when Carly needed her the most.
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Other than being more powerful, I think it will cause Carly emotional trouble as well.diamonnd wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 01:43You're right! I'm interested to see what comes from this merger in the next book! With that way this book went, I'm sure that it'll be something surprising and unexpected.nfdoughe wrote: ↑14 Feb 2020, 11:38 I think we still don't have all the facts on the implications of their merger. Dauma is supposedly this genius so I wouldn't assume she's done anything stupid. I do think it partly had something to do with her husband's death since she said it was painful to be without him. It's also something of their family tradition as she mentions her father merging with his mother and also merging with her. I thought it was an interesting part of the story. The consequences are probably not fully apparent yet.
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Yes Carly definitely loved and respested her mother. I feel that her mother was also proud and fond of her daughter.
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Exactly! There is a reason why people are not encouraged to make big decisions after a shocking development in their lives. Acting on raw emotion can be dangerous.AvidBibliophile wrote: ↑19 Feb 2020, 23:32I completely agree with the perspective of maternal self-sacrifice being the ultimate gift of ongoing life for your child, but this particular instance reiterates that perhaps no one is in the right headspace to make life and death decisions when they are already feeling grief-stricken and distraught; that emotional-complicator certainly made the motives more fuzzy.KDJ wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 17:34 I kind of think that all mothers would do that. In this particular situation, she was also so distraught over her husband's murder that I think when she used too much energy to kill the militants, she may have been trying to commit suicide. That's just what I think. What better way to leave your daughter with generations of insight and power, so she can continue to fight the Iksha.
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Yes, I agree with what you are saying. She needed to be there for her daughter in times of crisis the descendants are facing. Considering her experience, she should have made a better decision not guided by the grief of losing her husband.Nym182 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2020, 11:19Exactly! There is a reason why people are not encouraged to make big decisions after a shocking development in their lives. Acting on raw emotion can be dangerous.AvidBibliophile wrote: ↑19 Feb 2020, 23:32I completely agree with the perspective of maternal self-sacrifice being the ultimate gift of ongoing life for your child, but this particular instance reiterates that perhaps no one is in the right headspace to make life and death decisions when they are already feeling grief-stricken and distraught; that emotional-complicator certainly made the motives more fuzzy.KDJ wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 17:34 I kind of think that all mothers would do that. In this particular situation, she was also so distraught over her husband's murder that I think when she used too much energy to kill the militants, she may have been trying to commit suicide. That's just what I think. What better way to leave your daughter with generations of insight and power, so she can continue to fight the Iksha.
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I didn't think of it that way! You're right. I wonder if her connection with Dauma's powers will cause her to have emotional flashbacks of memories with her mother. I'm eager to see how she handles it.Howlan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2020, 11:13Other than being more powerful, I think it will cause Carly emotional trouble as well.diamonnd wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 01:43You're right! I'm interested to see what comes from this merger in the next book! With that way this book went, I'm sure that it'll be something surprising and unexpected.nfdoughe wrote: ↑14 Feb 2020, 11:38 I think we still don't have all the facts on the implications of their merger. Dauma is supposedly this genius so I wouldn't assume she's done anything stupid. I do think it partly had something to do with her husband's death since she said it was painful to be without him. It's also something of their family tradition as she mentions her father merging with his mother and also merging with her. I thought it was an interesting part of the story. The consequences are probably not fully apparent yet.
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Yes, and if we consider it that way I feel that she might have some trouble from her grandfather's memories as well.diamonnd wrote: ↑20 Feb 2020, 23:19I didn't think of it that way! You're right. I wonder if her connection with Dauma's powers will cause her to have emotional flashbacks of memories with her mother. I'm eager to see how she handles it.
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DragonLight877 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 22:14 I liked their relationship, up to the point where they became one. I thought it was an alright concept, but it really felt like Dauma was just giving up. It seemed like after losing her husband, Dauma wouldn't even continue to be there for her 16 year old daughter, who still really needed her. Over-all, there relationship was a very powerful one, but I wish it didn't just feel like Dauma abandoning her because of the loss of her husband.
This is exactly the way I read this part of the book. It seemed almost cruel as Carly begs her mother to stay because she couldn't lose both parents. Her mother's decision to force it on it didn't fit with the dynamic I thought they had.
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