And that really made quite a mess of the character.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:16Agreed!Howlan wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 13:21Yeah, the author really overdid he job on Adam.gilliansisley wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 12:32
Entirely agreed. How can be expected to resonate and connect with a psychopath who wants to bang his own mom, kidnaps and chloroforms a girl, owns a damn sex dungeon and perhaps is emotionally abusive to his girlfriend. I thought he was such a little child who treated people in his life like total crap, and yet was never held accountable for his actions, and throws temper tantrums all the damn time. He annoyed the hell out of me, he's so exhausting and infuriating to read about.
Adam and Carly relatable?
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dropped it really hard.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:18yeah, the author really dropped that ball...Howlan wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 13:24The character of Adam is very badly handled. Its half-assed. It is neither full dark and or sparky. It does not make a good character.gilliansisley wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 12:33
YES! Terry! Justice for Terry! And her poor parents-- find out Adam basically committed manslaughter, and throw that piece of trash in JAIL. He's awful and has too many issues, and love will not fix him, so Carly needs to get the hell out of dodge and save herself!
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And Carly is like "duh! no big deal"Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:19Exactly, that should be someone's worst nightmare.Howlan wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 13:28gilliansisley wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 12:35
Alos hard to relate with a dude who has a sex/torture den in the woods and wants to bang his mom... I really could not deal with the fact that Carly was like, "Yeah sure, ain't no thing". GIRL, RUN. Get yourself out of there! Don't destroy the evidence of the murder, take that sh*t to the police!
Yes, Carly should not have burned the evidence. how could she remain sane after discovering Adam's sex den??
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Agreed!Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:21I get what you are saying but personally it makes it harder to read a book when I don't care about/hate the characters.leiabutler wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 06:27 Yes I do find it a little outside of reality, but as you say because it is a fantasy genre, I can allow some of it to slide. I with they had have been a little more relatable and felt more real as young people but in the grand scheme of how it affects the novel, I don't think this is too major an issue
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He kind of needs some big shock to fix. Probably in regular doses.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:23I don't think there is any way to polish that turd of a character, AdamCYSON DOROPH wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 06:47 Both are similar because they are teenagers studying the same subjects. Adam is an introvert, but Carly is an extravert. If Adam remains snobbish, an apocalypse may be inevitable. If Carly is able to relate with Adam in a more intergrated way, a more polished character is what we may witness in the coming books of the series.
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Such characters are really hard to invest in.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:25I agree... I might even argue that should be the goal of the author... to take character, matter how outlandish they are, be it aliens, robots or teenagers, and get their readers to care about them.Howlan wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 07:32Yes totally for fantasy YA it is the duty of the authors to go and make it as relatable as possible.leiabutler wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 06:27 Yes I do find it a little outside of reality, but as you say because it is a fantasy genre, I can allow some of it to slide. I with they had have been a little more relatable and felt more real as young people but in the grand scheme of how it affects the novel, I don't think this is too major an issue
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Or "X-teens goes twilight"Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:26I agree. It's like X-men meets Patrick Bateman.Howlan wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 07:35The story is stereotypical of a YA series. The only unique thing is Adam's dark tastes in life.CYSON DOROPH wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 06:47 Both are similar because they are teenagers studying the same subjects. Adam is an introvert, but Carly is an extravert. If Adam remains snobbish, an apocalypse may be inevitable. If Carly is able to relate with Adam in a more intergrated way, a more polished character is what we may witness in the coming books of the series.
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Or at least keep them from being potential rapists.
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Yeah I totally get what you are saying. I read a story about people who are intelligent ghouls and related to their story a lot better.Drakka Reader wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 13:29
Thank you! I have read a book about soldiers that turn into demons rediscovering their emotions and I still related to them way better! They felt like people, not caricatures of characters. I suppose them showing actual care to one another and not sure if they should even be fighting felt like human reactions. Even better, it had similarly dark themes!
It doesn't matter if you hate or love a character but you must care in some way what happens to them. If the reader is apathetic or neutral to everyone then I believe the author failed.
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I completely agree with you. I couldn't believe how quickly Carly moved past the fact that her boyfriend had a secret sex-torture-shack and had kidnapped and killed a woman.Nym182 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 15:10 Not really... any time they had a disagreement or issue with each other (or other characters) they possessed an unnatural understanding of others feelings and pretty much everyone was forgiven instantly... considering that they are teenagers, I didn't really relate to that at all... When I was a teenager I was never so understanding and more prone to hold a grudge for longer than 10 mins
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I completely agree. Some of their word choices made them totally unbelievable as teenagers. I am a high school teacher and I have never heard kids speak like Carly and Adam.rbrochhausen wrote: ↑12 Feb 2020, 18:53 I think they are relatable in a sense of saving their kind. On a non-mutant standpoint, it's hard to belief that teenagers would have such proper grammar and cook elaborate meals.
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YES! She just worships him, and her rose coloured glasses are SO thick that he could kill her and from the other side she'd be like, "Poor Adam... such a good guy." Makes me feel gross.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:03Agreed! and her saying that he deserves a fresh start... DESERVES! She is literally standing in his torture den, sees his mom shrine, has his journal confirming what should be someone's worst fear, and somehow ends up feeling bad for Adam. I just can't even.gilliansisley wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 12:35Alos hard to relate with a dude who has a sex/torture den in the woods and wants to bang his mom... I really could not deal with the fact that Carly was like, "Yeah sure, ain't no thing". GIRL, RUN. Get yourself out of there! Don't destroy the evidence of the murder, take that sh*t to the police!ccundall2130 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2020, 16:57
As a parent of two teenagers, I completely agree with this view! And it makes me chuckle because I think my teenagers are pretty normal. I guess it is a fantasy and some allowances need to be made for that. But, when it's their night to cook, they mix hamburger with mac'n cheese and that's after they both took cooking in high school.
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Nope. There's no closure for the family. They will never know what happened, because Carly destroyed all the evidence. "NBD my boyfriend just ruined the lives of many people, including the woman he MURDERED, but we're in love and we're going to save the world, it's gonna be great!"Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:00At this point, they still think that she is just missing right? They will never know the full story or have any peace... How sad...gilliansisley wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 12:33YES! Terry! Justice for Terry! And her poor parents-- find out Adam basically committed manslaughter, and throw that piece of trash in JAIL. He's awful and has too many issues, and love will not fix him, so Carly needs to get the hell out of dodge and save herself!
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