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kdstrack wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 12:24 It was actually Jocelyn (Eastman's) comment about the author "taking the easy way out," that made me consider this possibility. After all, most of the characters seem to have some kind of power. Jo was "given" a special ability. Is there something we don't know - yet - about Adam's father?? (Thank you Jocelyn for that insight!!)
Hmmm, that's an interesting thought...
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gilliansisley wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 21:01
Nym182 wrote: 06 Feb 2020, 16:00 I thought that her lack of control made her a more interesting character - it's nice to know that someone perceived as being so powerful and being a leader could have flaws too!
I agree with this. Dauma was a badass, that's for sure. And her lack of control added a bit of dimension to her character.
Made her much more relatable and realistic!
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gilliansisley wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 21:04
Howlan wrote: 11 Feb 2020, 09:19
Nym182 wrote: 07 Feb 2020, 13:55

I also felt that his death/character was treated very harshly... Especially considering he wasn't involved with the bond between Jo and Adam... That really could have made him feel left out, (which Adams distaste for him didn't help) which could have lead to his cheating... (obviously I am not condoning what he did) I just kinda felt his character was created just for adam to hate and that's it... his character could have been developed a bit more... I think it would have been interesting if Adam had a decent relationship with him That would have caused more turmoil within adam after finding out that he cheating on his mom. Instead, his cheating just proved Adam right.
Yes, when finally Adam came to his senses and thought that he needs to deal properly with his father, he was killed off. The author wasted a huge subplot to carelessly killing Adam's father.
That's a good point. There was a chance for Adam to develop as a character, and that opportunity was essentially stolen from him.
Just one more thing done TO Adam to make the reader more sympathetic to him?
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Nym182 wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 11:47
gilliansisley wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 21:04
Howlan wrote: 11 Feb 2020, 09:19

Yes, when finally Adam came to his senses and thought that he needs to deal properly with his father, he was killed off. The author wasted a huge subplot to carelessly killing Adam's father.
That's a good point. There was a chance for Adam to develop as a character, and that opportunity was essentially stolen from him.
Just one more thing done TO Adam to make the reader more sympathetic to him?
I guess? Look, over there, an opportunity for Adam to not accept responsibility for his actions or role in something? GREAT! Quickly, where's my victim card!?
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Nym182 wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 12:13
kdstrack wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 23:39 I am wondering at what point Dauma realized that the captive was Adam's father?? Everyone just accepted her word (that the captive was Adam's father) when the only evidence was a skeleton on the truck.
That's a really interesting point!
Yes, Dauma may have guessed that before but kept up her hope in the beginning.
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kdstrack wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 12:24 It was actually Jocelyn (Eastman's) comment about the author "taking the easy way out," that made me consider this possibility. After all, most of the characters seem to have some kind of power. Jo was "given" a special ability. Is there something we don't know - yet - about Adam's father?? (Thank you Jocelyn for that insight!!)
From what we know Adam's father does not have any powers but who knows? The author could add a twist.
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Nym182 wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 11:45
kdstrack wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 12:24 It was actually Jocelyn (Eastman's) comment about the author "taking the easy way out," that made me consider this possibility. After all, most of the characters seem to have some kind of power. Jo was "given" a special ability. Is there something we don't know - yet - about Adam's father?? (Thank you Jocelyn for that insight!!)
Hmmm, that's an interesting thought...
Yes a great insight on the story.
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Nym182 wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 11:46
gilliansisley wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 21:01
Nym182 wrote: 06 Feb 2020, 16:00 I thought that her lack of control made her a more interesting character - it's nice to know that someone perceived as being so powerful and being a leader could have flaws too!
I agree with this. Dauma was a badass, that's for sure. And her lack of control added a bit of dimension to her character.
Made her much more relatable and realistic!
And showed how much she cared for her family despite her stern exterior!
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Nym182 wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 11:47
gilliansisley wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 21:04
Howlan wrote: 11 Feb 2020, 09:19

Yes, when finally Adam came to his senses and thought that he needs to deal properly with his father, he was killed off. The author wasted a huge subplot to carelessly killing Adam's father.
That's a good point. There was a chance for Adam to develop as a character, and that opportunity was essentially stolen from him.
Just one more thing done TO Adam to make the reader more sympathetic to him?
But Adam didnt dwell on him for long. He had no huge character developments at all.
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gilliansisley wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 12:07
Nym182 wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 11:47
gilliansisley wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 21:04

That's a good point. There was a chance for Adam to develop as a character, and that opportunity was essentially stolen from him.
Just one more thing done TO Adam to make the reader more sympathetic to him?
I guess? Look, over there, an opportunity for Adam to not accept responsibility for his actions or role in something? GREAT! Quickly, where's my victim card!?
Haha right on the mark!
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Power without control is very disastrous. Although I feel like Adam father's death was a bit harsh as he was not been loved by JoAnn and Adam too.
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Orizon wrote: 27 Feb 2020, 03:09 Power without control is very disastrous. Although I feel like Adam father's death was a bit harsh as he was not been loved by JoAnn and Adam too.
Yes I really feel for Mark as a character.
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gilliansisley wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 12:07
Nym182 wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 11:47
gilliansisley wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 21:04

That's a good point. There was a chance for Adam to develop as a character, and that opportunity was essentially stolen from him.
Just one more thing done TO Adam to make the reader more sympathetic to him?
I guess? Look, over there, an opportunity for Adam to not accept responsibility for his actions or role in something? GREAT! Quickly, where's my victim card!?
Must have left it in the den :lol2: :lol2:
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Howlan wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 14:39
Nym182 wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 12:13
kdstrack wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 23:39 I am wondering at what point Dauma realized that the captive was Adam's father?? Everyone just accepted her word (that the captive was Adam's father) when the only evidence was a skeleton on the truck.
That's a really interesting point!
Yes, Dauma may have guessed that before but kept up her hope in the beginning.
True!
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Howlan wrote: 26 Feb 2020, 14:42
kdstrack wrote: 25 Feb 2020, 12:24 It was actually Jocelyn (Eastman's) comment about the author "taking the easy way out," that made me consider this possibility. After all, most of the characters seem to have some kind of power. Jo was "given" a special ability. Is there something we don't know - yet - about Adam's father?? (Thank you Jocelyn for that insight!!)
From what we know Adam's father does not have any powers but who knows? The author could add a twist.
I would think so as I assume he's part of the Wit family.
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