Yes I agree with you on that one
Still their relationship had too much going on.
Yes I agree with you on that one
Exactly! He does all these abusive things to Carly, but you are right, it is never addressed and that kinda comes across and the author condoning what he is doing. I guess compared to kidnapping a girl, him listening into Carly's convo's isn't something to be worried about.danicommissions wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 16:50 I feel like, with the discussions that have taken place around past books like Twilight, YA authors maybe should have learned that it's possible for YA to normalise some really toxic stuff when it comes to relationships - like that 'love' is taking down all your boundaries around a person and letting them be overly protective of you and invasive of your privacy. I don't think Adam's exactly being portrayed in the book as a spotless hero, but a lot of the dangerous behaviours he displays aren't really addressed.
But then they just send overly understanding texts to each and kiss and make up.
Eh, never was my cup of tea!
or a tree house ha
Agreed, that was one of the very few signs of maturity and restraint (which was very shocking considering the other sexual details in the book)
Especially considering they've only known each other for a month or so.
Yes, that involves covering up murders.readerrihana wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:50 I agree it did go beyond what we expect for young people's books and some of the scenes were quite descriptive concerning passions and body parts etc
These things would not make it suitable for this age range.
Somehow Carly seemed innocent and their love innocent, yet there are many things that break that innocent bubble
Yes and after all that, he still acts like Carly is at fault all the time. Like when she hid her suspicions about Adam's identity for his own sake.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:54Exactly! He does all these abusive things to Carly, but you are right, it is never addressed and that kinda comes across and the author condoning what he is doing. I guess compared to kidnapping a girl, him listening into Carly's convo's isn't something to be worried about.danicommissions wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 16:50 I feel like, with the discussions that have taken place around past books like Twilight, YA authors maybe should have learned that it's possible for YA to normalise some really toxic stuff when it comes to relationships - like that 'love' is taking down all your boundaries around a person and letting them be overly protective of you and invasive of your privacy. I don't think Adam's exactly being portrayed in the book as a spotless hero, but a lot of the dangerous behaviours he displays aren't really addressed.
But still, I did not like Adam's attitude.
Yeah I agree. Not mine either.
That is a great summary! And yes, there are a lot of things that suggest their innocence (such as abstaining from sex) but there are a lot more instances than condemn their relationship and highlight how toxic it actually is.readerrihana wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:50 I agree it did go beyond what we expect for young people's books and some of the scenes were quite descriptive concerning passions and body parts etc
These things would not make it suitable for this age range.
Somehow Carly seemed innocent and their love innocent, yet there are many things that break that innocent bubble
A treehouse would have been difficult to cover.
Yeah, another thing that I found surprising was them dealing with Kane's kiss so maturely.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 12:11That is a great summary! And yes, there are a lot of things that suggest their innocence (such as abstaining from sex) but there are a lot more instances than condemn their relationship and highlight how toxic it actually is.readerrihana wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:50 I agree it did go beyond what we expect for young people's books and some of the scenes were quite descriptive concerning passions and body parts etc
These things would not make it suitable for this age range.
Somehow Carly seemed innocent and their love innocent, yet there are many things that break that innocent bubble