I agree haha I feel like they are two different books smushed together and barely smoothed outAntonelaMaria wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 13:25I can't for the life of me understand what the intent was. Because I clearly can NOT connect the first and second parts of the book. It is like intent changed.Nym182 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 12:14hmmm interesting... that may have been the intent of the author, but I don't think she achieved that goalcristinaro wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 11:19
Sorry, I've accidentally added an extra "u". It's "bildungsroman", a genre dealing with the psychological and moral development of a character; it usually follows the character's growth from his/her birth and childhood to his maturity years, sometimes throughout his/her entire life. For example, novels like Charles Dickens' "David Copperfield'" or "Great Expectations" are famous novels belonging to this genre.
A Coming-of-Age Story?
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I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!
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I agree about the stagnant characters especially... take Rye for example... It's like the author just needed a shortcut around getting her characters from point A to point B quickly so they created Rye... I can barely remember any of the other descendants...
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Well, that is certainly true. She seemed a little too perfect in this book. If her anger changed her that would be interesting.Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:12I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!
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I agree!B Creech wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:38Well, that is certainly true. She seemed a little too perfect in this book. If her anger changed her that would be interesting.Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:12I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!
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Yes the smoothing was very rough on this one.Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:11I agree haha I feel like they are two different books smushed together and barely smoothed outAntonelaMaria wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 13:25I can't for the life of me understand what the intent was. Because I clearly can NOT connect the first and second parts of the book. It is like intent changed.
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I would love if Carly changes consciousness and have Dauma's persona. It would be cool and perhaps then she could show Adam some tough love as well.Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:12I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!
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Yes, these characters were hardly involved. I expect to see more of them in the series.
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Other than her emotional outbreaks Carly really was a model girl.B Creech wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:38Well, that is certainly true. She seemed a little too perfect in this book. If her anger changed her that would be interesting.Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:12I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!
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Still he may have got rid of some qualities but still he is very annoying. If you start reading the second book you see Adam is back on track.ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 17:11 I suppose Adam did have a degree of moral development. He didn't seem like he was going to be kidnapping store clerks anymore and he had a degree of remorse when Mark died. However, I still don't see him as a particularly good or likable character.
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Hahaha, I don't think so either!djr6090 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 19:40Thank you for the explanation. But I don't think (i)Opaque(/i) compares to Dickens.cristinaro wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 11:19Sorry, I've accidentally added an extra "u". It's "bildungsroman", a genre dealing with the psychological and moral development of a character; it usually follows the character's growth from his/her birth and childhood to his maturity years, sometimes throughout his/her entire life. For example, novels like Charles Dickens' "David Copperfield'" or "Great Expectations" are famous novels belonging to this genre.
I don't think the story started early enough in Adam's life to be dubbed a "bildungsroman," regardless of its lack of literary merit. He doesn't have enough of a character arc either, as his motivations are changed more so than his morals.
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Perhaps I could justify calling it a coming of age story, but once again, I found it to be all about angst and just not really have enough substance for even that.
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In this context I could say it is a coming-of-age storycristinaro wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 11:19Sorry, I've accidentally added an extra "u". It's "bildungsroman", a genre dealing with the psychological and moral development of a character; it usually follows the character's growth from his/her birth and childhood to his maturity years, sometimes throughout his/her entire life. For example, novels like Charles Dickens' "David Copperfield'" or "Great Expectations" are famous novels belonging to this genre.