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AntonelaMaria wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 13:25

Nym182 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 12:14

cristinaro wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 11:19

Sorry, I've accidentally added an extra "u". It's "bildungsroman", a genre dealing with the psychological and moral development of a character; it usually follows the character's growth from his/her birth and childhood to his maturity years, sometimes throughout his/her entire life. For example, novels like Charles Dickens' "David Copperfield'" or "Great Expectations" are famous novels belonging to this genre.

hmmm interesting... that may have been the intent of the author, but I don't think she achieved that goal

I can't for the life of me understand what the intent was. Because I clearly can NOT connect the first and second parts of the book. It is like intent changed.

B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!

Howlan wrote: ↑17 Feb 2020, 01:31 I think this definitely is a coming of age story. However, Adam's character is like a roller coaster goes up and down, Carly is pretty stagnant, and I think the side characters have no development what so ever so They too can be stated as stagnant.

Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:12

B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!

I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!

B Creech wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:38

Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:12

B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!

I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!

Well, that is certainly true. She seemed a little too perfect in this book. If her anger changed her that would be interesting.

Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:11

AntonelaMaria wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 13:25

Nym182 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 12:14

hmmm interesting... that may have been the intent of the author, but I don't think she achieved that goal

I can't for the life of me understand what the intent was. Because I clearly can NOT connect the first and second parts of the book. It is like intent changed.

I agree haha I feel like they are two different books smushed together and barely smoothed out

Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:12

B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!

I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!

Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:15

Howlan wrote: ↑17 Feb 2020, 01:31 I think this definitely is a coming of age story. However, Adam's character is like a roller coaster goes up and down, Carly is pretty stagnant, and I think the side characters have no development what so ever so They too can be stated as stagnant.

I agree about the stagnant characters especially... take Rye for example... It's like the author just needed a shortcut around getting her characters from point A to point B quickly so they created Rye... I can barely remember any of the other descendants...

B Creech wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:38

Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:12

B Creech wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 19:35 I guess a coming-of-age story, especially for Adam. I think Carly may be descending since the loss of her parents. She can't accept it and she is becoming angry over it. Anger is a part of the grief process, but she seems to be getting stuck in that stage of grief. I wonder how she will be in the next book in the series? Hopefully moving on!

I think it would be really interesting to read about Carly kinda losing her grip on herself and going off the deep end a bit... might make her a bit more interesting to me!

Well, that is certainly true. She seemed a little too perfect in this book. If her anger changed her that would be interesting.

ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 17:11 I suppose Adam did have a degree of moral development. He didn't seem like he was going to be kidnapping store clerks anymore and he had a degree of remorse when Mark died. However, I still don't see him as a particularly good or likable character.

djr6090 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 19:40

cristinaro wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 11:19

djr6090 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 09:36 What is a buildungsroman? I've never heard of that before.

Sorry, I've accidentally added an extra "u". It's "bildungsroman", a genre dealing with the psychological and moral development of a character; it usually follows the character's growth from his/her birth and childhood to his maturity years, sometimes throughout his/her entire life. For example, novels like Charles Dickens' "David Copperfield'" or "Great Expectations" are famous novels belonging to this genre.

Thank you for the explanation. But I don't think (i)Opaque(/i) compares to Dickens.

cristinaro wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 11:19

djr6090 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 09:36 What is a buildungsroman? I've never heard of that before.

Sorry, I've accidentally added an extra "u". It's "bildungsroman", a genre dealing with the psychological and moral development of a character; it usually follows the character's growth from his/her birth and childhood to his maturity years, sometimes throughout his/her entire life. For example, novels like Charles Dickens' "David Copperfield'" or "Great Expectations" are famous novels belonging to this genre.