Such a tasteful youth we have here!Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:42DittoHowlan wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 15:55I dont think I remember that after a month but still is pretty disturbing nonetheless.Nym182 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 15:11
There is a sentence or two (I may be getting it a little wrong here) where he's listing all his supplies and he makes a comment about "this is what I'm supposed to have" or something about being prepared... (I'll have to look it up when I get home) He really did his homework on this kidnapping thing.
Vicki - Victim or Deserves it?
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They were taking out enough frustation.
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Or like a freak show!
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Dauma is really relatable despite her stone-cold exterior.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:45which is a valid point.
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Yeah it was a major 180 for me too. Suddenly she is this sympathetic girl.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:47Agreed! I did think that it was weird that no matter how mean Adam could be to her, she would just keep coming to him for attention (obviously now I know why) But you are right, hearing her story and knowing more about her stuggles changed my perception of her as well!Tan TR wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 10:34 I honestly didn’t like Vicky throughout the beginning, till almost the end, of the book. But I do agree, that once I read her story she became another person. She wasn’t just that irritating girl, but a lonely person that is used as a means to an end by her own father. That is messed up.
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Yeah Adam suprisingly as his moments.Nym182 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 11:50Which is a valid point. It's strange to see Adam as the "voice of reason" in this situation, especially considering everything else he had done...readerrihana wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 10:43 But I'm the end Adam does have compassion for her and feels bad when he sees her condition and realises she is only human
Running her a bath and giving her food show that his hatred for her is gone.
As for the others they seemed desperate to try and save Carlys father. She seemed to be part of tgst
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Yes true you should definitely be wary of the enemy. But with Daruma's brokenness and Adam's flashback there were better ways to get information out of her than illogical emotional torture.
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Yes true. Conisdering Dauma's and Adam's abilities surely something less crude could be done.jahagen wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 16:06 I definitely agree with you. For the good guys, they are a bit too comfortable with torture and murdering people. Usually those things are what separates the good guys from the bad guys. But I certainly think that what they did to her was out of line and way over the top.
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From the excerpt of Split Adam at the end of the book, it seems like they are trying to redeem Adam's complacency during these part of the book.
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My thoughts exactly, though I couldn't get over the bad points of the book and gave it a 2.esp1975 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 13:31 I think this just represents another way this is very much a young adult book and not an adult book. The way Vicki is treated is very much a teenager fantasy for being able to deal with an evil peer, the mean girl. In an adult book, we would have had to deal with not just the action but the emotional reaction from making that choice. And it absolutely is a big deal.
And I think it will feel even more squicky over the rest of the series when Vicki develops Stockholm Syndrome and comes to see her captors as "right" and wants to help them against her father. (I haven't read the next book, this is just my suspicion of what will happen in her character arc.)
But it is obvious that we as a reader are never really meant to see Vicki as a whole person. We never get in her POV, no matter how many POV jumps we have. She is a plot device given a name and nothing more. And so, by that standard, we shouldn't even be having this conversation.
I gave the book a good review. I did enjoy it, but there were plenty of things that bothered me. This is actually one of the weakest points of the book.
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