Vicki - Victim or Deserves it?

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I would say that their actions were extreme but I guess they were just desperate, that's all.
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Post by leximutia »

No, I don't think what happened to Vikki was fair. And yes, Dauma, Carly, and Adam definitely went too far.

I'd call Vikki, or Katareena, a victim of circumstance. She is on the antagonists' side in the story but only because she has had certain information fed to her by people she trusted. From her father, she only knows that this child with certain abilities is the one responsible for the death of her uncle, so in her eyes, she was doing what she thought was right.

She deserved to know the truth of the situation. She did not deserve to be tortured.
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I thought it was kind of weird that they tortured her (basically) and I find it even weirder that Vicki was so dumb that she didn't know what her father was doing. I mean, she must have known he was murdering people and had access to crazy substances that didn't exist anywhere else in the world. I wish she would have been a bit smarter or maybe had more motive to make her seem like she deserved bad treatment. I wanted to hate her, but she was just so lame I couldn't.
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Vikki obviously wasn't a victim. Even though she looks young, her mind is much more matured as she is actually is a mature woman. Unless the serum also stunts mental growth, she is definitely not a victim.
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Post by DEEPA PUJARI »

I felt sorry for Vikki too. I think she was just used as a pawn by her father and had to take the brunt.
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esp1975 wrote: 18 Feb 2020, 13:31 I think this just represents another way this is very much a young adult book and not an adult book. The way Vicki is treated is very much a teenager fantasy for being able to deal with an evil peer, the mean girl. In an adult book, we would have had to deal with not just the action but the emotional reaction from making that choice. And it absolutely is a big deal.
I haven't read this, but from what I am gathering reading the thread is that the pair did go too far. And, the notion that this legitimizes the fact that this is a YA book is a bit off the mark, in my opinion. I know, as a teenager or adult, I haven't fantasized about torturing anyone in such a manner. Also, if a teenager did have such fantasies, wouldn't they just continue into adulthood? Sure, there are "mean girls" in school, but adult peer groups tend to have them as well. Unfortunately, for some, our personality tendencies do stick with us throughout our lives.
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I feel like Vicky deserved it. She did a lot of nasty things and karma finally caught up to her.
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The thing to note here is the possibility for a really promising character arc.

Personally I didn't think Vicki was that bad of a person, nor that the group's decision was all that bad either. The author made her a certain way so she could make her better in the future, and I bet in the other books she's way more likeable.

I think their decision was just a necessary threshold to get her on the side of good and I'm curious to see if it actually works.
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Post by Estrellah254 »

What they did was not fair. Vicki only did what she was instructed by her father. Dauma and Carly tortured her because they were desperate for information.
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B Creech wrote: 16 Feb 2020, 19:51 I think what Dauma, Carly, and Adam did to Vikki was definitely over the top. To kidnap her and question her was one thing, but I agree that she was only doing what her father instructed her to do. She was not a physical threat to them personally, she was just to find out who had special powers and report it to her father.
Definitely. The interrogation was kind of justified but Vikki was oblivious about the reality of the situation. She was also fairly harmless compared to all these people with superpowers. However, they were unaware of what she was capable of so it's understandable that they were cautious.
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Wy_Bertram wrote: 28 Apr 2020, 13:54 The thing to note here is the possibility for a really promising character arc.

Personally I didn't think Vicki was that bad of a person, nor that the group's decision was all that bad either. The author made her a certain way so she could make her better in the future, and I bet in the other books she's way more likeable.

I think their decision was just a necessary threshold to get her on the side of good and I'm curious to see if it actually works.
I agree. The same way some descendants sided with the Iksha, I think they'll bring Vikki over to their side. In the preview to the next novel, they move Vikki into an underground apartment where I think she will begin to learn the truth about the descendants and the Iksha.
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Post by tripsa »

obviously Vicki was a victim though she was following her father's order but she didn't mean to harm anyone and she thought she was doing the right thing but what dauma , Carly and adam did was horrible. They were just desperate which cause her death
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Post by Sarpande »

I have mixed feelings about Vicki/Katareena.

Her story is that she was manipulated by her father to fulfill his psychotic goals, not to mention abused physically and emotionally with the truth about her family kept from her. Even with all she had done to Adam, Carly, and the other Descendents it's confusing to see her as either a victim or villain.

I guess it all depends on whether or not she decides to redeem herself later on in the series.
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Post by Radhika_puri »

I think the behaviour of Dauma, early and Adam towards Vikki was not good. But they are not totally at fault as they were also thinking maybe she knows something which can help them. But the torture on Vikki is also not totally justified as she was in a mindset that she is doing the right thing. So the torture should not be done on her.
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She was clearly a victim for me. Just like Draco Malfoy in Deathly hollows.
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