Completely agree. I really dislike YA books that normalize these types of relationships.gilliansisley wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 10:25I entirely agree-- and that's why this book is so dangerous when put in the hands of impressionable young people. In the real world, he isn't "fixed" by love. He's still violent and disturbed, and Carly would be in great danger.La Loca Designs wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 16:20I agree. I don't consider him redeemed either. It is difficult to believe that he could change so quickly and easily from a sociopath in training to perfect. I kept wondering when he would turn on Carly in a violent way.gilliansisley wrote: ↑25 Feb 2020, 15:13 Without Carly around, he already kidnapped and almost raped and facilitated the murder of Terry. I think if the time continued on, he would have sexually assaulted his own mother, and possibly killed his dad. He's a psychopath, and I still don't consider him as having redeemed himself, even after Carly. I hated Adam's character!
The narrative of "true love can fix people" is exactly how individuals end up in abusive relationships.
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I didn't necessarily think the explanation was weak, but that it absolutely came WAY too late. My opinion of him being super creepy was already formed by the time they offered that new information.Nym182 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 16:30They DO kinda explain why Adam has those thoughts, but it was a pretty weak explanation in my opinion. For the most part, it's just kinda cringy... but there are some weird sexual details that don't really serve a purpose to the story. They definitely made me pause andNjkinny wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 11:55 Adam’s fascination with JoAnn made me uncomfortable and had me thinking that this book should have been categorised in the Adult category, not YA. Please someone tell me if he improves further down the book because I am still undecided if I should continue reading it.
I think obsession is definitely the better word for the Joann situation. I think he would have tried something sometime, but I think it likely would have been rebuffed and his reaction to Carly or whoever probably would have been closer to Terry then.
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If there's not really any purpose to any of it, I don't think I'll keep reading. My gut was turning reading it, and it turns now just thinking about it.Nym182 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 16:30They DO kinda explain why Adam has those thoughts, but it was a pretty weak explanation in my opinion. For the most part, it's just kinda cringy... but there are some weird sexual details that don't really serve a purpose to the story. They definitely made me pause andNjkinny wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 11:55 Adam’s fascination with JoAnn made me uncomfortable and had me thinking that this book should have been categorised in the Adult category, not YA. Please someone tell me if he improves further down the book because I am still undecided if I should continue reading it.
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How frugal is the chariot
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I found it really weird as well. I felt like there could have been so many other ways to approach all the subjects the author was trying to bring up, without having to include an incest like story line.
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That's exactly what I was feeling. Not only this addresses the topic of psychopathy in a romanticized way, if it turns out that he then just... isn't so bad anymore? Discarding that issue entirely when it's inconvenient through the cliche of true love is problematic and dangerous.La Loca Designs wrote: ↑09 Mar 2020, 23:51Completely agree. I really dislike YA books that normalize these types of relationships.gilliansisley wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 10:25I entirely agree-- and that's why this book is so dangerous when put in the hands of impressionable young people. In the real world, he isn't "fixed" by love. He's still violent and disturbed, and Carly would be in great danger.La Loca Designs wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 16:20
I agree. I don't consider him redeemed either. It is difficult to believe that he could change so quickly and easily from a sociopath in training to perfect. I kept wondering when he would turn on Carly in a violent way.
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I am conjointly feeling constant and am undecided. I keep thinking if showing Adam like this is often extremely necessary and considering it's a YA book, simply plain weird and surprising.
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