The amusement park and the memorial

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It could work, but it could also flop terribly. It all depends on the implementation, really. I always support combining education and entertainment, but it's not an easy feat at all.
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I totally agree with your thoughts concerning the memorial being kept in the amusement park. An amusement park is a place of robust activities, fun & pleasure. It needs to be in a solemn, peaceful & serene environment.
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Tomah wrote: 16 Mar 2020, 02:20 It could work, but it could also flop terribly. It all depends on the implementation, really. I always support combining education and entertainment, but it's not an easy feat at all.
I am sure it isn't! In this instance, I felt it would be such a drastic difference that both the amusement park and the memorial might take away from one another.
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I have the same reasoning as you. A memorial does not belong in an amusement park. It would be ignored or overlooked by most people. I believe a town square, a nature park, or a town garden would be a more appropriate location. The memorial would receive the respect and acknowledgment it deserves in any one of these settings.
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praise+anyi wrote: 16 Mar 2020, 15:57 I totally agree with your thoughts concerning the memorial being kept in the amusement park. An amusement park is a place of robust activities, fun & pleasure. It needs to be in a solemn, peaceful & serene environment.
Thanks! I have a hard time imagining going to an amusement park and having fun if I stopped at an emotional memorial first! The memorial was to be about how the Irish sufferings. An Amusement park is a place of indulgence. To me, that doesn't stack up.
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kmittag67 wrote: 16 Mar 2020, 19:52 I have the same reasoning as you. A memorial does not belong in an amusement park. It would be ignored or overlooked by most people. I believe a town square, a nature park, or a town garden would be a more appropriate location. The memorial would receive the respect and acknowledgment it deserves in any one of these settings.
Absolutely! It deserves respect. I had several family members serve in the Viet Nam War. In our little town in Ohio, we had a city park in the middle of town overlooking the Ohio River. A Viet Nam memorial was put up in the park with all of the soldiers from our small town who served in that war. It is a very humbling experience to visit that memorial and find the names of my relatives there. Thank goodness it was erected in that quiet park in the center of town for all who visited it to reflect on it and not have loud noise and laughter in the background!
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An amusement park is supposed to be for fun. The memorial being there will obviously dampen the mood of visitors to the amusement park especially for the young ones.
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I did think it a bit of an odd choice to put it in an amusement park. I suppose it was to be placed there as a compromise move so the developer would have a better chance of agreeing to the park. Clearly he wasn't keen on it, though. :tiphat:
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I say any kind of monument or memorial to any kind of pain shouldn't be in an amusement park. Most amusement parks have high prices to be able to enter, which means so many less people would see it!
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I think the purpose of suggesting the memorial was an attempt to get the developer to change his mind about the amusement park; especially since he wanted to do so on land with historical significance. Bridget knew of other monuments that were built to honor the past, but were hidden from view. What she was asking has been done before successfully in the past.

Like those fun fairs back in the early 1900s, organizers were able to mix fun activities with educational ones. I know of several attractions in my area that balance fun and history lessons successfully. She was likely hoping he would meet her half way and think of something suiting to honor and respect the past.
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TopaAzul062 wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 21:11 I think the purpose of suggesting the memorial was an attempt to get the developer to change his mind about the amusement park; especially since he wanted to do so on land with historical significance. Bridget knew of other monuments that were built to honor the past, but were hidden from view. What she was asking has been done before successfully in the past. Like those fun fairs back in the early 1900s, organizers were able to mix fun activities with educational ones. I know of several attractions in my area that balance fun and history lessons successfully. She was likely hoping he would meet her half way and think of something suiting to honor and respect the past.
It is very possible Bridget was trying to get Dermot to change his mind about the amusement park. And yes, it could have been done to combine the two; however, I feel a memorial of that type should be placed in a place where everyone could show their respect. Not everyone goes to an amusement park, and I doubt that anyone would pay the amusement park entrance fee just to see the memorial. So, for those who don't go, they would be missing out on the memorial all together!
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Amanda Newton wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 20:18 I say any kind of monument or memorial to any kind of pain shouldn't be in an amusement park. Most amusement parks have high prices to be able to enter, which means so many less people would see it!
I totally agree! It would need to be put somewhere that everyone would see it.
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I can see both sides of the argument here. I feel like having it in an amusement park could feel a bit strange or out of place, but there was clearly a reason for it to be placed there in this instance. There would definitely be a lot of people that would get to see this memorial at an amusement park that might not have the opportunity to if it was located somewhere else. Also an amusement park is somewhere you would probably be with people that you love and you can experience it together.
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Jennashby_87 wrote: 18 Mar 2020, 19:32 I can see both sides of the argument here. I feel like having it in an amusement park could feel a bit strange or out of place, but there was clearly a reason for it to be placed there in this instance. There would definitely be a lot of people that would get to see this memorial at an amusement park that might not have the opportunity to if it was located somewhere else. Also an amusement park is somewhere you would probably be with people that you love and you can experience it together.
You have some very good points! Thanks!
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I agree with separating the location of the amusement park and the memorial. It would be very disturbing to arrive at the amusement park for a day of fun and be confronted with a statue of starving children (or something similar.) The memorial would be better served if it had its own location where it would receive the reflection and honor it deserves.
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