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What is Seamus' role in the development of the story? Is there any hope for him to survive and show up in the last volume of the series?
Will the good side of him prevail?
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I feel that Seamus was a necessary evil to the plot. I also thought for a moment at the end that Seamus was going to end up being an alter-ego of Dermot. He seemed to be a good guy that got caught up in the wrong thing and went too far down the wrong path.
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Indeed he had a bad role in the story, only, as you said, he is more of a good guy turned bad, his worst flaw being indecisiveness and cowardness. I would have liked, though, that he be redeemed in the end.
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Personally, I didn't like Seamus. He had several opportunities to do the right thing, but each time he chooses the reverse. I think he received more than a second chance to show his good side. But his unbalanced behavior made the story a bit more intriguing.
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Indeed, I have rarely met his type (among characters and people). Seemingly good, well-intended but... proving the saying "The hell is paved with good intentions" right.
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I also did not care for Seamus, I feel that he should have taken the chance to make things right without dragging little Claire into it and terrorizing her. If he was going to put himself out there and attempt to end his life anyway, why didn't he just come clean to the authorities or even Ed? Why nearly kill the little girl, too?
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I agree, there were solutions less drastic than those he tried.
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InStoree wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 05:11 Personally, I didn't like Seamus. He had several opportunities to do the right thing, but each time he chooses the reverse. I think he received more than a second chance to show his good side. But his unbalanced behavior made the story a bit more intriguing.
I agree. I can understand that he turned down the wrong path, but he just continued to follow that path instead of turning around.
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Juliana_Isabella wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 10:42
InStoree wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 05:11 Personally, I didn't like Seamus. He had several opportunities to do the right thing, but each time he chooses the reverse. I think he received more than a second chance to show his good side. But his unbalanced behavior made the story a bit more intriguing.
I agree. I can understand that he turned down the wrong path, but he just continued to follow that path instead of turning around.
Indeed! As another famous saying proclaims:
"Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum (“To err is human, to persist is diabolical."
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jdraper16 wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 09:28 I also did not care for Seamus, I feel that he should have taken the chance to make things right without dragging little Claire into it and terrorizing her. If he was going to put himself out there and attempt to end his life anyway, why didn't he just come clean to the authorities or even Ed? Why nearly kill the little girl, too?
I feel the same way. If he was going to kill himself why did he care if Hilary went home or not? Or, maybe he was so tortured that he had been so greedy and didn't protect Bridget. Still, he should never have taken Claire and done what he did to her!
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Seamus used the excuse of being the second son and having to make his own way to justify his bad deeds. He knew Bridget was in danger and didn’t just tell her the truth. Not the way I would like to be treated by someone who claims to love me.

I don’t see his character carrying over to the next book unless it is also set in Ireland.
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I agree that Seamus was a foil for Hillary, among others. I don't think he will show up in the next book. He was weak-willed and pretty boring.

There is always room for anyone to change, but that doesn't make change easy or likely.
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B Creech wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 12:41
jdraper16 wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 09:28 I also did not care for Seamus, I feel that he should have taken the chance to make things right without dragging little Claire into it and terrorizing her. If he was going to put himself out there and attempt to end his life anyway, why didn't he just come clean to the authorities or even Ed? Why nearly kill the little girl, too?
I feel the same way. If he was going to kill himself why did he care if Hilary went home or not? Or, maybe he was so tortured that he had been so greedy and didn't protect Bridget. Still, he should never have taken Claire and done what he did to her!
Agreed. I kept expecting Seamus to redeem himself in the end, but disappointingly, he didn't.
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MirageP wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 13:01
B Creech wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 12:41
jdraper16 wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 09:28 I also did not care for Seamus, I feel that he should have taken the chance to make things right without dragging little Claire into it and terrorizing her. If he was going to put himself out there and attempt to end his life anyway, why didn't he just come clean to the authorities or even Ed? Why nearly kill the little girl, too?
I feel the same way. If he was going to kill himself why did he care if Hilary went home or not? Or, maybe he was so tortured that he had been so greedy and didn't protect Bridget. Still, he should never have taken Claire and done what he did to her!
Agreed. I kept expecting Seamus to redeem himself in the end, but disappointingly, he didn't.
I know, I was hoping he would too. Perhaps he was so torn between not protecting Bridgett and being caught in the middle of the amusement park deal he finally lost his grip on reality. He let his greed outweigh his heart and knew it was wrong, but it was too late.
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Barbara6886 wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 12:58 Seamus used the excuse of being the second son and having to make his own way to justify his bad deeds. He knew Bridget was in danger and didn’t just tell her the truth. Not the way I would like to be treated by someone who claims to love me.

I don’t see his character carrying over to the next book unless it is also set in Ireland.
No, it is not the way I would want to be treated either! I don't think he will show up in the next book either.
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