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What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 06 Apr 2020, 10:10
by DEEPA PUJARI
Being scientists, I think keeping Project Tau and Project Kata in the same cell is the single most foolish thing GenTech did. Dr Dennison was aware of Project Kata trying to corrupt Project Tau’s mind but he did not separate them. I wonder why :?: :?: :?:

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 06 Apr 2020, 11:12
by Chelsey Coles
You bring up an interesting point. I never thought about that...

I'm sure GenTech's facility is quite large (they're rich and autonomous, after all), so space can't be an issue. They probably had more than enough space to put them in separate rooms. Dennison indeed knew Kata's influence on Tau... but the other scientists seemed to be either oblivious or not care. Perhaps they didn't think anyone would have a lasting effect on Projects except them, because they are the creators (in their minds).

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 06 Apr 2020, 17:04
by Nerea
They assumed the Projects will abide to the orders they give them. I remember when both Dennison and Mason were conversing when the Projects escaped, one of them said that the projects were trained to be obedient and be less harmful. Little did they know that tables would turn and jeopardize their mission.

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 07 Apr 2020, 02:13
by Brenda Creech
I don't know, maybe they wanted to see just how much of an effect Kata would have on Tau. Would Tau stay true to the training he had been given to obey? Or would Kata be able to sway him enough to make him rebel against the scientists? :eusa-think:

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 07 Apr 2020, 05:42
by Nzube Chizoba Okeke
I think placing Project Tau and Kata in the same cell, was a wrong move by GenTech because in the end, it jeopardized their mission. If only they knew...

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 07 Apr 2020, 10:55
by Realsy
I found this exceptionally odd. I mean, both Dennison and Mason knew that Kalin was human. Therefore he had no training to be obedient like Tau did. Did they really expect a human to be imprisoned for longer than agreed, undergo surgery/modifications without permission, and be repeatedly "handled" for everything from asking questions to actual physical attack? Did they really think he would break so quickly or that Tau would be able to "train" him? For scientists, ALL of them were really dumb. I don't think there was a single humane, smart scientist in the whole lot. Dennison was a sadist, Renfield and Chatton both had their dumb moments, the lesser scientist characters only named once or twice would act like children and stomp their feet when Kata would not work and immediately bring in handlers. I mean really guys. You brought this on yourself.

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 07 Apr 2020, 12:02
by Frannie Annie
He probably underestimated what the two were capable of. Even though he saw the influence Kata had on Tau, the core of his belief is that Projects are subhuman and can't think the way normal humans can. I'm finding there are a lot of characters who refuse to give up that belief, sometimes at the cost of their own lives.

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 07 Apr 2020, 12:46
by zhenya_reads
This is a very interesting question! Maybe the reason was that the only one who actually knew that Kata is in fact a human being, who can think for himself, was Mason. And Mason didn't seem to care too much about what exactly was going on - maybe he didn't even know that they were put into the same room. The other scientists thought that he was the same as Tau (even with his memory implants) and probably didn't even think about it. Although you make a very good point - why didn't they separate them once they saw what was happening? :eusa-think:

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 08 Apr 2020, 00:58
by Jude Austin
I'm ducking my hands-off rule just this once, so I can sneak into this thread incognito (Ssh!) to say that this isn't a plot hole, and that there were actually several very logical and rather mundane reasons for the decision, if you read between the lines and think like Dennison. Though I admit I can't understand why anyone would want to do that last one :P

You didn't see me. I was never here.

*sneaks out again*

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 08 Apr 2020, 10:08
by DEEPA PUJARI
zhenya_reads wrote: 07 Apr 2020, 12:46 This is a very interesting question! Maybe the reason was that the only one who actually knew that Kata is in fact a human being, who can think for himself, was Mason. And Mason didn't seem to care too much about what exactly was going on - maybe he didn't even know that they were put into the same room. The other scientists thought that he was the same as Tau (even with his memory implants) and probably didn't even think about it. Although you make a very good point - why didn't they separate them once they saw what was happening? :eusa-think:
Can’t agree less

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 10 Apr 2020, 12:19
by leximutia
I did think that it was a strange decision to keep them in the same cell and that keeping them together would not be in the best interests of GenTech, but I quickly dismissed this because I enjoyed the dynamic between Kata and Tau so much.

Thinking about it more though, the only one that did know that Kata was actually a human was Mason himself, someone proved to be incapable of running the facility, and the remaining doctors/researchers/employees must not have thought too much about keeping two Projects in the same room. Until recently, Projects had never been able to speak, and Projects never learned to disobey or even think for themselves. They had little to no reason to think that housing two together would cause any issue.

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 01:34
by tanner87cbs
I think them sharing a room could of been used as a plot twist. Something like the experiment never ending and the scientists making observations of their interactions.

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 16:15
by Barbara6886
I think this has to do with people devaluing those they feel are inferior. GenTech thought they were superior and in control. Therefore, they saw no danger in allowing Tau and Kata to share quarters. Look back throughout history. How many societies that practiced slavery kept the slaves separated? They used mental manipulation and physical violence to control them. Uprisings were brutally put down. GenTech, like others who have tried to enslave people, miscalculated due to their own ego.

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 17:56
by tanner87cbs
Barbara6886 wrote: 11 Apr 2020, 16:15 I think this has to do with people devaluing those they feel are inferior. GenTech thought they were superior and in control. Therefore, they saw no danger in allowing Tau and Kata to share quarters. Look back throughout history. How many societies that practiced slavery kept the slaves separated? They used mental manipulation and physical violence to control them. Uprisings were brutally put down. GenTech, like others who have tried to enslave people, miscalculated due to their own ego.
Very well stated, I agree. It is almost a new level of the sociological game the scientists play with the projects.

Re: What do you think about GenTech putting Project Tau and Kata in the same cell

Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 13:01
by jdsatosk
I found myself questioning that right away! While the interaction between Kalin and Project Tau was one of my favorite parts of the story, I couldn't quite see it as realistic that the scientists would mix their experiments - especially if there were no cameras to monitor the two subjects in their room interacting alone. I was very skeptical and I thought it pretty convenient, but, after reading some of the comments on this discussion, I can see that it could be just another dehumanizing act to deprive the subjects of privacy. I guess it is just another way that the author is showing how unconcerned the handlers and scientists are about danger from the Projects - because they are not considered human.