I completely agreed with you, in the USA there cases where the applicant died due to mistake during the Fraternities selection. There is even some new legislation about it in some states. The being accountable of your actions should be impose.Barbara6886 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 17:22 I think this scenario is not just a fraternity issue. Look at the bullying that takes place in American schools. Phillip giving Kalin an unachievable task to exclude him from being able to join the group is played out daily on every playground in this country.
Philip’s reaction when he finds out what happened to Kalin because of it is also the classic response of bullies. They don’t think about others. They don’t think about the consequences of their actions. For the most part kids like Phillip have been sheltered from having to deal with consequences.
I think the author did a great job of telling that part of this story.
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The author did an explicit good job.
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Maybe this is what it is like around his clime.
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The bad things usually revolve around crazy initiation rituals that are life endangering, pulling ill-advised pranks, throwing toilet paper around a target's residence, kidnapping a rival school's mascot and some acts of vandalism. I have encountered individuals that were either partially or entirely like Kalin but were more easy going. There were also some individuals that were like Philip with the grand majority being less than pleasant to be around.
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I agree it did seem like a movie scene!
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I think this scene had too much contrived coincidence and was highly unrealistic even for a science fiction story. I found it very hard to believe.
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Fascinating, as I had never really considered the American influence of such groups. Greek groups like these are not something I'd ever wish to be a part of, but most individualists and introverts probably wouldn't. You are certainly right about that desire we all share to "fit in" with some collection of people, no matter what the commonalities might be.
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Though I understand that others might have different sensible reasons for joining one.
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This is a good point. I have never had any experience with sororities or hazing at varsity however, I think the issue of bullying and targeting is very common and can be very extreme in some cases no matter where you are.Barbara6886 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 17:22 I think this scenario is not just a fraternity issue. Look at the bullying that takes place in American schools. Phillip giving Kalin an unachievable task to exclude him from being able to join the group is played out daily on every playground in this country.
Philip’s reaction when he finds out what happened to Kalin because of it is also the classic response of bullies. They don’t think about others. They don’t think about the consequences of their actions. For the most part kids like Phillip have been sheltered from having to deal with consequences.
I think the author did a great job of telling that part of this story.