Was sending Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden a blessing or a curse?

Nama Winnie · Post by **Nama Winnie** » 05 Jun 2020, 05:36

JM Reviews wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?

Knowing my creation story I've always thought that man was sent away as a punishment. I do not how it could possibly be good with all the suffering you see around.

I haven't read this book yet, but really hope to. If it has all these angles to this story, I'm curious

Nama Winnie · Post by **Nama Winnie** » 05 Jun 2020, 05:40

Alice Ngugi wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 05:03 I believe it was both a blessing and a curse. In the garden they could not enjoy the varying levels of emotions such as sadness and pain, at that they would not be able to fully appreciate the good times. The curse comes with separation from God and even facing death ultimately.

For me the curse wins out. I think I would prefer living in the garden and not fully expereincing joy than out here paying for the consequences of disobedience

Kemmy11 · Post by **Kemmy11** » 05 Jun 2020, 06:39

Mounce574 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 14:41 I don't believe that God would ever curse people. I saw this as more of a disciplinary action due to disobeying his rule. This is also a debatable issue that is best resolved by the Bible.

Couldn’t have said it better. I see it as consequences for their actions

writestuff · Post by **writestuff** » 05 Jun 2020, 08:23

It seemed like a punishment in the beginning and as we were all told as kids it was, punishment it was. Then you read further and think it through, you realise its God's love.

Misael Carlos · Post by **Misael Carlos** » 05 Jun 2020, 08:50

It is always about choices. Adam and Eve was sent away because they chose to disregard God's words. I also think everything happens for a reason and the reason why we are where we are is because of that choice. A blessing or a curse? I think neither.

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:10

B Creech wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 17:07 I don't believe Adam and Eve were sent away from the Garden of Eden to protect them from Satan, I believe they were sent away because of their sin. Satan is in the world so when they were sent out of the Garden they became even more vulnerable to him.

I agree totally

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:12

Misael wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 08:50 It is always about choices. Adam and Eve was sent away because they chose to disregard God's words. I also think everything happens for a reason and the reason why we are where we are is because of that choice. A blessing or a curse? I think neither.

And maybe both
Great opening statement tho, extremely true.

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:14

writestuff wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 08:23 It seemed like a punishment in the beginning and as we were all told as kids it was, punishment it was. Then you read further and think it through, you realise its God's love.

True.
The Bible even says He chastises those whom he loves.
The book makes that fact clear

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:15

Kemmy11 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 06:39
Mounce574 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 14:41 I don't believe that God would ever curse people. I saw this as more of a disciplinary action due to disobeying his rule. This is also a debatable issue that is best resolved by the Bible.
Couldn’t have said it better. I see it as consequences for their actions

Absolutely, and the Bible does explain it if we care to look through it

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:16

Nama Winnie wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 05:36
JM Reviews wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?
Knowing my creation story I've always thought that man was sent away as a punishment. I do not how it could possibly be good with all the suffering you see around.

I haven't read this book yet, but really hope to. If it has all these angles to this story, I'm curious

Bother to read the book and a little bit of the Bible, you'll see that God does everything to restore us to that beautiful garden relationship we had with Him.

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:18

Jacktone Ogada wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 00:50 I don't think it was protection against Lucifer, since the serpent also had his own share of curses. Furthermore, the serpent and human beings were set to be enemies forever, and so there was no way of protecting them outside the garden. I think it is simply a punishment for defiance to God's commands.

Or the consequences of disobeying laid down instructions

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:21

Wyzdomania_Gskillz wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 10:50
JM Reviews wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?
First of all, God didn't put any curse what so ever on man. He only cursed the ground because of man and then increased the pains of childbearing for the woman. He didn't even introduce the pains at that time, He only increased it.....meaning the woman was already meant to experience some pain during childbirth, but probably not much.

Secondly, sending the man and woman away from the garden was for their good and that of mankind to come. That was the singular act that ensured they could be redeemed again. Because if they had gone ahead to eat from the tree of life after the fall (which I suppose they were already eating from before the fall, seeing as the tree of knowledge of good and evil was the only forbidden one), they would have lived perpetually in that fallen state with no possibility of redemption....

This is extremely true

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:22

Nerea wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 10:30
JM Reviews wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?
He wasn't protecting them from Lucifer because both Adam and Eve joined him to rebel against God. God drove them away so that they may not eat from the tree of life and become immortal souls.

With disobedience still inherent in them

Claris L · Post by **Claris L** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:23

Leen282 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 11:40 I didn't read it as a curse. To me, it's a consequence of their actions. Since there's no comparison to what their life would have been had they been allowed to stay, it's hard to say if in the end it's more a curse or more a blessing.

This sums up how I feel about sending Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden as well. It makes sense that they were sent away, given what they did do, and since there is no idea about what it's like if they're allowed to stay, we can't compare what it would be like if they stayed.

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:24

Alice Ngugi wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 05:03 I believe it was both a blessing and a curse. In the garden they could not enjoy the varying levels of emotions such as sadness and pain, at that they would not be able to fully appreciate the good times. The curse comes with separation from God and even facing death ultimately.

But with life if they chose God and his ways finally
Although I would prefer to have lived without sadness and pain at all