Is God Omniscient?

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ohlendorfbe wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 10:27 I agree with you that the author of this book does not really portray God as omniscient, because he is surprised by the acts of men. The omniscient God that I believe in is all-knowing. I think the author made the Trinity with too many fallible characteristics.
I don't think that author intended in any disrespect, only he has wanted to do was to show the fartherly qualities of the God
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Palfree wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 17:37 Yes, I believe God is omniscient. I was surprised that the author portrayed God as surprised by some of the things that happened on earth.
If the God knew everything, why did He let the devil to fool Eve. Was everything happened was God's intention?
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Topsey wrote: 27 Jun 2020, 13:00
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Anna Dougherty wrote: 25 Jun 2020, 12:45 I believe that God is omniscient, meaning that he knows all things that happened in the past, are currently happening, and will happen in the future. In Killing Able God is seemingly unaware of some of the effects of the curses he bestowed on Adam and Eve. He seems surprised that the curses did not do exactly what he had in mind. How could this happen if he is God? I think it is interesting that the author chose to portray God in this way.
Yes, that is one thing I disliked about the book. God has no weaknesses and makes no mistakes! So, He is never surprised by anything. Yes, God is omniscient.
I agree! The author suggests that God could make mistakes as He is unaware of the consequences He caused. There is no support for this in the bible and so while I enjoyed the other theories the author used to embellish the stories, this seemed to be a strange decision.
It is true that this theory is not supported in the bible, and also the author has no intentions on disrespecting the God. But he had to change some of the God's qualities to make the character more father-like
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Elvis Best wrote: 27 Jun 2020, 13:19 In the book, I think what the author tried to do was to humanise God. God was portrayed as a being who could also make mistakes. But this goes contrary to our believe that God is omniscient.

It's a different way to look at God, and I think what the author was trying to do was to challenge our former theology about God.
I don't think the author is cchallenging anyone's beliefs. What he does is only making the God more humanized and also more fatherly
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yosek123 wrote: 27 Jun 2020, 17:07 I saw this portrayal as a variation on the "Problem of Evil," a paradox presented by Epicurus and David Hume. Hume postulates: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then from whence comes evil?" In this book, God does not seem to be omniscient, since he is surprised by some of the actions. He is not, however, malevolent as the quote may suggest since he does govern.
That is a nice argument. When thinking about some of the biblical events, it leads us to think why God let them happen that way
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victoriasimons wrote: 28 Jun 2020, 11:13 Yes, I've always viewed God in this way too. It helps with the Christian belief that we should have faith in His plan as he knows best, regardless of how bad current situations might be. However, some Bible stories conflict this too. In "Killing Abel", God seems surprised by human actions in a similar way to God's anger in the story of Adam and Eve when He is shocked and disappointed that they both disobey Him and eat the apple. I wonder if these stories are simply intended to help humans explore the concept of God, as opposed to portraying Him completely accurately?
Seeing the God in this way is much tallying with the twists in the biblical stories. Otherwise everything should have been smooth and well planned
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do20 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 12:31 I believe that God is omniscient, he knows everything about the past, the present and the future. God was not surprised but rather angry because human being had disobeyed him.
If He knows the future, He would have seen the act of disobedience. So why didn't He prevent that? On the other hand, why did He got angry about a fact that He already knew of?
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Yes of course God is,has always been and will always be Omniscient. He(God) is above all and everything and cannot make any mistake or be classified with humans.
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God not being omniscient was one of my major dislikes in Killing Abel. Almost every denomination of Christianity is taught that God sees all, knows all, and allows things to happen for humanity's ultimate good. It was a bit odd for me to read from the point of view of the Holy Trinity as they discussed different outcomes, because God already knew what was going to transpire. I believe God is omniscient.
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Despite what the author of this book has portrayed, God is omniscient and that is not debatable.
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As someone who is not religious, it is hard to wrap my head around this question of whether God is all-knowing. Although I do not practice religion or really worship beings of a superior echelon, I do believe that there are some existing entities similar to god-like a creator, maybe. Whether God is omniscient is quite subjective though. To some people, God is, indeed all-knowing, because that's how He answers their prayers and how He helps them through difficult times. To others, God may just be a symbol of faith, some sort of aura or energy that grants them hope during times of turmoil.
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I believe that God is omniscient but we must not forget that in fiction, not everything is real so I just accept the author's view in on God's omniscience in the as a work of fiction; something that contributes to the overall plot of the novel.
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God is Omniscient, but I think He chooses to act as though He does not know. For instance, after eating the forbidden fruit and finding out that they were naked, Adam and Eve hid from God. When He came walking in the Garden, He called out, asking where they were. I think He wanted them to confess. The same scenario is repeated when Cain killed Abel.
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I believe God is omniscient. I didn't take this book as a reference to measure God's power. I just read it as a fiction.
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God is omniscient, at least that's what we have come to understand over time. The perspective the author chose is thought-provoking though.
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