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I believe no one is irredeemable, even the Bible says that. So, Cain's case won't be a difference.

I believe everyone is redeemable, even the Bible states it. So, Cain is not an exception.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Cain was beyond redemption. I think he just had the wrong attitude and God was trying to change that. Whether he did or not was entirely up to him.

No, he wasn't. He had many chances to repent though. I regard his death as a kind of retributive justice, the justice that Eva couldn't get for many decades.

I do think so, the corruption he allowed tester within him completely took over. By the time of the murder, he was long gone.

Delioness wrote: ↑25 May 2022, 02:09 No, Cain was not beyond redemption. Fast forward to the destruction in Eden, the fact that Cain was in a dilemma meant he had a choice. He could have been redeemed, but he choose otherwise.

I agree with you

Noone is irredeemable, except they choose to be.

Cain is human and like all humans, he has flaws. Everyone makes mistakes but I think everyone is capable of redemption.

Everyone is redeemable, but before you may be atoned for, you must first acknowledge your wrongdoing. This was what God was expecting Cain to do

No, I don't think so. Cain was given another chance by God, even in the Bible, so I don't think he was irredeemable. When God cursed him to be a vagabond, he pleaded with God and God placed a seal of protection upon his life, that anyone who touches him, suffer the same fate he suffered.

Nobody is irredeemable, but I don't think Cain's repentance was recorded in the bible, so I see why the author wrote about him as irredeemable.

I thought I was the only one having issues with this. I think the author got so many things wrong about Cain. Cain was never irredeemable.

Biblically speaking, Cain was beyond redemption. He knowingly and consciously murdered his own brother. There has to be a line drawn somewhere so that we stop vindicating even outrightly horrible people. Some people are beyond redemption, and if God, the redeemer himself, says so, then we can't argue with that

Yes. To answer the question, yes. Cain was utterly irredeemable as the book depicted him. This is not because he murdered his brother, which was completely wrong, it was the actions that followed. At certain points Cain felt remorse and guilt but that was all, he never took the step further of repenting for his actions of killing Abel, he simply accepted what he did as it being in his nature. He never spoke to God for forgiveness of his sin, he admitted to Eva that what he did was wrong but that was it. Even at the end he placed all his blame on his birth being that as a result of the tree of knowledge, which was rules. Meaning he blamed it on not being able to function with faith (tree of life) rather than rules. In his last moments he can not understand how mercy and forgiveness are given to someone through sacrifice, and accepts that he will not be forgiven by God, without even trying. So no, ass the book depicted Cain, he could not be redeemed because of his own actions.

Indeed, Cain did a lot and caused so much trouble both to man, himself and God. However, no man is beyond redemption by God.