Is the Bible incomplete?

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MeganDJ wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 09:44 From what I can understand, the author was trying to portray his unique perspective in what he thought could have happened "in between the lines" so to speak. He was describing the events of the Bible with a thoughtful and easy-to-follow flow, as well as his attempts at trying to rationalize and make sense of what may not have made sense during an initial read of the original Bible. I do believe that the original text is complete, but impartial or unimportant aspects weren't recounted.
Yes, maybe the original texts have been complete, but the editings might have changed that
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wendilou49 wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 10:12 It is alright to add opinions on what the Bible has to say and to "imagine" what biblical times were like. However, it's not ok to add to the Bible and expect to have your opinion or notes considered part of Scripture. The book says in Revelation that we are not to add or take away a jot or tittle to the Scriptures(rev 22:18,19) No, the Bible is not incomplete. But we are only given what we need to know. It will all be revealed some day.
Fiction can never be taken as a part of scripture. Additional details can only be considered atleast if they were well researched, despite just imagining
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B Creech wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 12:11
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B Creech wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 04:36
I believe it would be difficult to ignore the connection of this book to the Bible since the stories the author has expanded on are Bible stories. I agree the book is not meant to replace the Bible, but it is thought-provoking and encourages the reader to use their own imagination.
That is very true. The author himself has mentioned in his book that he believes that the bible has written in the way it is to make us think
Exactly! God wants us to study it, not just read it! The Buble is how God speaks to us.
Just reading it won't be of any help. You have to study it, think it over, and try to grasp the deeper meanings
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Jae_27 wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 12:55 I think that the Bible incomplete because of centuries of information lost to translation. Wether it be translation errors that change the meaning of a phrase or just simply losing parts of the book due to human error, I don't think the modern bible reflects what it originally was supposed to convey. If anyone was able to find and read the first ever copy of the Bible I think they would truly understand it in completion.
That is a fair argument. The new bible could be lacking in some aspects compared to its original version
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Adedayo+23 wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 13:25
Leen282 wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 15:08 Since the book is presented as fiction, I don't think it is meant to be read as trying to complete the Bible. For me one has nothing to do with the other.
My thoughts exactly. The author's intention was never to have the book viewed as a continuation of the Bible but as a thought-provoking fictional entity. That's my opinion anyway.
The author never said that his book is scripture. It is merely a fiction, yet it makes the reader think
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Mounce574 wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 14:11 I think that the Bible is incomplete in modern day translation. The original writing was in Hebrew and and from some of what I have been told is that parts are missing. I don't know if that is a fact but I believe a lot of the teachings are miscomstrued by some people to fit their perceptions and motives.
The political and other agendas might have had a strong affect on the current version of the bible. But that can never be known as a fact
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LinaMueller wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 14:30
Leen282 wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 15:08 Since the book is presented as fiction, I don't think it is meant to be read as trying to complete the Bible. For me one has nothing to do with the other.
I agree one hundred percent. It makes no sense for a Christian to think that the Bible could be incomplete.
In that point of view, yes, a Christian cannot think so, or won't accept so
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SophiaNd wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 16:49 The Bible is complete in itself as inspired by the Holy Spirit
The inspiration might have been for the 1st bible. But what is currently available is not the 1st one
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Dannyphery wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 17:23 I believe the Bible contains all the vital information which it needed to be passed across... In that sense, I would say it is indeed complete.
That can be considered as fair enough. The details what it carries might be the ones which are intended to be forwarded
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Dragonsend wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 17:40 No I do not think the Bible is incomplete though there are additional biblical writings. This novel was imagination not fact.
This novel is fiction, not fact. But then what is the purpose of those additional biblical writings?
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Poppy Drear wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 17:44 I can't speak on the religious connotations, but any narrative can technically be considered 'incomplete.' There are always more details that could be added, and in writing a work of fiction, I think the author was justified in including things that weren't covered in the Bible.
Any narration can be incomplete in the eyes (or ears) of the receiver. So it is okay for one to imagine those lacking details
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Jerusalem94 wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:19 I think the writer should made bigger research on the Original words from hebrew and Aramaic so we can really say how all The dilemma Go in the original languages of the bible
If that would have been happened, this book would not have been merely taken as fiction, but as scripture
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kdstrack wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:54 I disagree with the statement that the Bible is incomplete. God has given us all the information we need to have salvation. His message to mankind is complete. - The author has written a fictional book. He embellished the biblical stories to add what he imagined could have happened. As long as he does not insist that his version is the "truth," but only fiction, I don't see it as a problem. I do agree with others who have opined that it is incorrect to alter the facts that we DO have in the Bible.
The author clearly says that his book is work of fiction. So that doesn't create such a problem
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Alec_Stamm wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 23:48 Depends on what you mean by "incomplete". Yes the bible contains all the crucial theological principles of the Christian religion. Yes there are texts that were edited out by the early church. But I do think that one can gain much from reading additional information about the history of the early church, and the development of christian thought over the centuries.
Yes, that is true for any scripture. If you want more details, you have to study further
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Kansas City Teacher wrote: 07 Jun 2020, 09:28
AmyMarie2171 wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 16:12 I don't think the two are connected at all. If the Bible had included every detail about every story beyond what is absolutely critical, then we'd never be able to finish reading it. Since the Bible was put together by councils who chose what would be canon, we know that some of what was originally written was left out. Nevertheless, 2 Timothy 3:16 says that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God," so I tend to believe that what is in the Bible now is complete due to divine inspiration.
I have always wondered who got the final say of what goes and what doesn't go and why some things are left out. The Old Testament is particularly in unconventional time.
Who had the chance as well as right to decide on the final version is a mystery, and it will remain so forever
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