Was sending Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden a blessing or a curse?

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Alexandros92 wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 06:56 Sending them out of the Garden is neither. It is just the natural outcome of their choice. Since the fruit basically symbolizes the lack of trust toward nature and God and thus the awaking of the Ego and the need for knowledge, it is only natural that human beings found themselves to be isolated. It is not a curse and not a blessing.

If humans trusted God and let go of their Ego, the gates of Eden would reopen in the afterlife. It is a choice, nobody is punishing us.
Since God is our creator and knew us before we were formed in our mothers' wombs, shouldn't he have seen it coming, as opposed to leaving the tree there to see if they would give in to temptation? Better yet, shouldn't He have just banished the snake/the devil from Eden in the first place?
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I think sending them away from the garden of Eden was a curse. Because God told them they would struggle to have food, for the woman will experience labor while giving birth. He also placed death on all humans. Unlike in the garden of Eden where things were calm and perfect. But because he is a merciful God and loves his people, those who repent their sins have a second chance with God.
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I personally think it was a blessing. If god did not send them away from Eden they would not have had the knowledge to reproduce
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qheich wrote: 07 Jul 2020, 05:24
Alexandros92 wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 06:56 Sending them out of the Garden is neither. It is just the natural outcome of their choice. Since the fruit basically symbolizes the lack of trust toward nature and God and thus the awaking of the Ego and the need for knowledge, it is only natural that human beings found themselves to be isolated. It is not a curse and not a blessing.

If humans trusted God and let go of their Ego, the gates of Eden would reopen in the afterlife. It is a choice, nobody is punishing us.
Since God is our creator and knew us before we were formed in our mothers' wombs, shouldn't he have seen it coming, as opposed to leaving the tree there to see if they would give in to temptation? Better yet, shouldn't He have just banished the snake/the devil from Eden in the first place?
That would have left us with no choice. In simple terms, there can be no good without evil, there can be no Garden without a tree of knowledge. God did not wish to turn humans into mindless robots that follow orders without having a choice. Banning the snake would remove that option completely.
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Equal arguments can be held for both sides, but I can't really see how driving them from the garden protected them from Lucifer, because some time later, that very Lucifer was sent down to earth.

Personally, I have no idea. There's no frame of reference. I know too much to want the oblivion that would have been the norm in the garden, and there's no guarantee I would even exist there.

But then, there's a lot of negativity to conscious existence that we could all do without.

But again, I have no idea.
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When God created Adam and Eve,he gave them Dominion be he loved them. I won't say it is a curse, but it the was as a result of their disobedience to the instructions of God.
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To me I don't see it as a curse. Rather I see it as part of creation. God is Omniscience. He knows the end from the beginning, So He can't be wrong.
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I can't choose between "both" and "neither" to answer this question. Surely, there were positive and negative consequences to God ejecting the pair from the Garden, but they used their free will and had to live with the consequences.
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Sending them out out the Garden was not a curse but a way for them to redeem themselves. Every sin must be accounted for and that was a way to account for theirs.
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Just like everything in life, I believe you can see it as both a blessing and a curse. Yes, they are sent away from Eden which is a "curse", but it brings new opportunities which is a blessing in itself.
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It was a curse for Adam and Eve as they were expelled from the life of luxuries....but it was due to their own fault.
even miracles take a little time. :angelic-blueglow:
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I can't say that it's a blessing nor a curse, but I can say that sending them away from Eden was a direct consequence of their sin. Eden is not a physical environment but an atmosphere of God's presence. So the presence of God could repel them away from God.
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I think while God didn't take the consequences of their actions, aka the curses, they were inherently an act of grace. You can see it all the time. Yes, He cast them out their ideal home, but also, you can see he was taking care of them, clothing them, giving them a promise of hope. From my point of view, given that according to the bible, the punishment of sin is death and they had now sin in their life, retiring them from his presence was an act of love, otherwise, He would have to destroy them.
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Wuoketch wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 14:39 It was neither. This was all God's plans, He knew both Adam and Eve will eat the fruit and would then send them to the world to fulfill his will.
Absolutely,I concur with you he had planned it even before creation.
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Marmar 200 wrote: 07 Jul 2020, 08:04 I personally think it was a blessing. If god did not send them away from Eden they would not have had the knowledge to reproduce
And also a sense of responsibility.You have to work to survive nothing comes easy.
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