Did Nephilim Really Help Noah with Building the Ark before the Flood?

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IchbineinBerliner wrote: 02 Jun 2020, 13:56
Cynthia_Oluchi wrote: 02 Jun 2020, 02:27 We already know the author wrote so many things from his opinion—this is just one of them.
No, the Nephilim are not mentioned in that context in the Bible. The author's embellishments are supposed to add to the popular entertainment value of "Killing Abel." They do, up to a point, for those of us who are willing to take the Bible less literally while reading this book.
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Nerea wrote: 02 Jun 2020, 08:27
bookreviewmi1111 wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 17:39 As I know, Noah built his ark to save his family and other animals from the Flood. This is actually mentioned in the Bible. But I have not heard about Nephilim helping something with it.

So, what do you think about Nephilim in this book? Did Nephilim actually do that in the Bible, or is this just the author's opinion?
It's the author's opinion. The account in the Bible shows that the Nephilim didn't help Noah to build the ark. They were rogue giant beings that influenced violence on earth.
(“The mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame” that were produced by these marriages, were not men of fame with God, for they did not survive the Flood, as did Noah and his family. They were “Nephilim,” bullies, tyrants, who no doubt helped to make conditions worse. Their angelic fathers, knowing the construction of the human body and being able to materialize, were not creating life, but lived in these human bodies and, cohabiting with women, brought forth children. Their children, “mighty ones,” were therefore unauthorized hybrids. Apparently the Nephilim did not, in turn, have children.")
This is the perfect explanation, and from the horses mouth itself
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Samgum50 wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 21:17 I think that this is just the authors opinion. I've never seen biblical backing to confirm that theory.
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_Lindsey_ wrote: 02 Jun 2020, 12:50 I could be wrong but I'm fairly certain that it's not in the original biblical texts.
You are very correct. I never studied anything about Nephilim in the Bible.
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I think that Nephilim helping with the Ark was an act of imagination and creative flair from the author. While reading the Bible describing these events, I did not come across any mention of anyone besides the family working on the Ark.
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I believe the Author used his imagination because he believed that eventhough Gpd asked Noah to build an ark of that magnitude, the author imagined that only Noah and his three sons couldn't have pulled it off by themselves alone and since there was no mention of it in the Bible, the author decides to use his own imagination
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That the Nephilim helped in the building of the ark is not stated in the Bible. But some apocryphal sources stated so (including this novel). I reckon, it would not be far-fetched for Noah to employ the Nephilims should they be available. I was thinking, in the construction of the ark, there is much to gain if you have giants that could serve as " cranes" for handling of heavy materials being transported to elevated levels. In fact, for this matter, I have this wild idea that the Nephilims might have been around during the building of the pyramids. For one thing, the big blocks of pyramid materials could be put in place by giants towering sixty feet or so. And the pyramids being buried in silt, sits well with the theory that these were already built even before the flood, very well in the time of the Nephilims.
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I think the author added a lot of things based on his opinion. But looking at it critically, nephilim helping Noah shouldn't be out of place
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First, we should all understand that this is a fictional book. Only the storyline is derived from the Bible. Most of these events are purely imaginary. Having said that, biblically, Noah built the ark alone.
Insofar as the word 'should' even has meaning, then we must say that the past is exactly as it should be, everything that happened should have happened, and everything that should happen will happen
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Samgum50 wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 21:17 I think that this is just the authors opinion. I've never seen biblical backing to confirm that theory.
I agree with you. Since this is a fictional book, the author is allowed to come up with new ideas that may make the book more interesting and help in building the plot. This is such an idea.
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jhunt wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 22:18 I believe it's just the author's opinion. I have not read of Nephilim during my own Bible practice.
I didn't read about him either. I believe it's just one of the ways the author uses to build the plot of the book.
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writestuff wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 22:36 It's a thin line to tread. The Nephilim in my studies refers to a rank of Angels. There is belief that Angels lay with humans and giants were created. As to if they helped with the ark its a concept that makes sense.
This is the first time I'm hearing about Nephilim being Angels. I've never even heard of the word. Thanks for elaborating on this.
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Cynthia_Oluchi wrote: 02 Jun 2020, 02:27 We already know the author wrote so many things from his opinion—this is just one of them.
Yeah, and I've read a comment about Nephilim being a group of Angels. If this is true, then it might be argued that they actually helped him.
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In the Bible, Nephilim isn't mentioned. The author has used examples like this one to extend a biblical story.
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JM Reviews wrote: 07 Jun 2020, 02:46 First, we should all understand that this is a fictional book. Only the storyline is derived from the Bible. Most of these events are purely imaginary. Having said that, biblically, Noah built the ark alone.
I agree, isn't it amazing how one man would be able to build an ark? I think this a compelling reason for the author to use another character as a helper.
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