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Leen282 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 11:40 I didn't read it as a curse. To me, it's a consequence of their actions. Since there's no comparison to what their life would have been had they been allowed to stay, it's hard to say if in the end it's more a curse or more a blessing.

Alexandros92 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 06:56 Sending them out of the Garden is neither. It is just the natural outcome of their choice. Since the fruit basically symbolizes the lack of trust toward nature and God and thus the awaking of the Ego and the need for knowledge, it is only natural that human beings found themselves to be isolated. It is not a curse and not a blessing.

If humans trusted God and let go of their Ego, the gates of Eden would reopen in the afterlife. It is a choice, nobody is punishing us.

Alexandros92 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 06:56 Sending them out of the Garden is neither. It is just the natural outcome of their choice. Since the fruit basically symbolizes the lack of trust toward nature and God and thus the awaking of the Ego and the need for knowledge, it is only natural that human beings found themselves to be isolated. It is not a curse and not a blessing.

If humans trusted God and let go of their Ego, the gates of Eden would reopen in the afterlife. It is a choice, nobody is punishing us.

Wyzdomania_Gskillz wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 10:50

JM Reviews wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?

I don't think I could have put it any better.
First of all, God didn't put any curse what so ever on man. He only cursed the ground because of man and then increased the pains of childbearing for the woman. He didn't even introduce the pains at that time, He only increased it.....meaning the woman was already meant to experience some pain during childbirth, but probably not much.

Secondly, sending the man and woman away from the garden was for their good and that of mankind to come. That was the singular act that ensured they could be redeemed again. Because if they had gone ahead to eat from the tree of life after the fall (which I suppose they were already eating from before the fall, seeing as the tree of knowledge of good and evil was the only forbidden one), they would have lived perpetually in that fallen state with no possibility of redemption....

kparikh wrote: ↑29 Aug 2020, 11:47 Technically it was just punishment. He asked them to not eat anything from the Garden of Eden and they did. Simple as that. Really it is us that decide whether it was a punishment or a curse... would you rather be living in a world where we walked around aimlessly?