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Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 08 Apr 2021, 11:37
by Liefvirannebelle
Its true the circumstances of gis birth and the stigma around him developed traits already present. Abel wass sweet his whole life. Abel could have saved himself but no he was proud
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 06:41
by Chinazo Anozie
MeganDJ wrote: ↑07 Jun 2020, 04:52
I found this book to be a truly fascinating read, but this particular passage piqued my interest:
"Cain’s foundation was the root of his inner conflict. The whole family knew the circumstances of the birth of Cain: he was the thirteenth born, borne of knowledge. Then Abel, the fourteenth child, had been conceived through faith. That everybody knew of the circumstances of Cain’s birth was not helping him. In reality, Cain’s birth had been no different from any other birth. But in the minds of men, the fact that he had been the thirteenth born made it different. Thirteen was a number that had come to mean rebellion―as it had been on Friday, the thirteenth day of creation, that Adam had eaten from the tree―and this day would be remembered forevermore as unlucky."
Do you believe the circumstances of Cain's birth is what ignited his rebellious nature, even before entering the world? Or do you think it was the fact that everyone knew of the circumstances of his birth, and therefore his nature was developed from the expectations of those around him?
Additionally, Cain also has an issue with his name and states numerous times the expectation of that name. Do you think his personality and demeanour may have been different if his name wasn't Cain?
To be honest, I didn't really agree with the author's depiction of Cain at all.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 20 Mar 2022, 11:57
by Aeesha Bashir
Even though I'm a firm believer in the power of names. I don't think his name had anything to do with his personality. I believe he just wanted to be distinct from his siblings and his father.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 12 Apr 2022, 11:14
by Bennaji
I didn't understand why Cain felt that way about his name. I even feel that he should have felt honoured because he was an answered prayer to his parents.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 08 Jun 2022, 05:24
by Prestige-best
I had a lot of challenges reading this part. There should be more explanation about this part.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 09 Jun 2022, 20:52
by Maris Charles M
I totally did not agree with the author here. First I don't think it is scientifically possible to Cain a son. I also think that the circumstances surrounding once brith and Name has nothing to do with the person's nature or personality. We choose what we want to become and do.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 14 Jun 2022, 03:42
by Eva Nyaburi
I believe it was the circumstances he was brought up in where everybody believed he was born rebellious. Even how the sisters treated him was different to how they treated Abel
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 19 Jun 2022, 04:30
by ankundachloe
I believe Cain chose his own path of life that was different from the rest not because of being the thirteenth born or having been given the name Cain, but rather because he wanted to be different from the rest. It was his own heart and mind that determined his choices in life.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 09:19
by Moneybag
This was one of the places I had to disagree with the author completely while reading. I don't think the circumstances surrounding ones birth or his/her name has any effect on the persons personality or character.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 06 Jul 2022, 01:26
by Agbata precious
Leen282 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 13:48
I sincerely hope the name didn't impact his personality. He would probably also have disliked another name. I can imagine him feeling annoyed about the rest of the family talking about the circumstances of his birth. Being born as 13d child is not causing rebellion in my opinion, but being talked about all the time can get on someone's nerves.
Good point.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 08 Jul 2022, 03:02
by Ohna Martin
I believed the fact that he was informed about the circumstances of his conception and birth and the meaning of his name is what made the difference. If he did not know about it it would have made a big difference, he would not have believed that he was "different" from anybody else. I believe you are what you think and from the beginning, Cain was told he was different and he believed it with his whole heart.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 08 Jul 2022, 09:19
by Donald Trust
This was the only confusing aspect of this book for me. I found it difficult to understand the authors writing here.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 08 Aug 2022, 15:20
by Laney K
When the world is constantly telling someone that they are one particular thing, such as bad, then of course it's easier to fall into those stereotypes so that push made it easy for Cain to end up bad because everyone treated him as such.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 18:59
by Micah_1
I feel like people's names has great effect on them, if Cain's name was changed, maybe it would have been a different thing.
Re: Caining a Son
Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 09:33
by IbrahimOtegbade
It isn't the number or name, it is Cain's decision that leads him to his death at the end. He has a chance to repent but he is too obsessed to turn back.
I understand that names have effect on people back then, but there are a few people whose names were changed by God in the Bible. So, in the end, it's the person not the name.