Is God Omniscient?

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God is omniscient. However, the author didn't portray him in this light.
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Yes, He is omniscient. I also believe He is well aware of things before they occur because He is the creator.
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This is a matter of belief.
The fact that God is portrayed as being fallible makes for a more interesting story IMHO
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Anna Dougherty wrote: 25 Jun 2020, 12:45 I believe that God is omniscient, meaning that he knows all things that happened in the past, are currently happening and will happen in the future. In Killing Able God is seemingly unaware of some of the effects of the curses he bestowed on Adam and Eve. He seems surprised that the curses did not do exactly what he had in mind. How could this happen if he is God? I think it is interesting that the author chose to portray God in this way.
Killing Abel is not different from other stories or plays. One similarity is that they're all written by men - men who would at one point try to impose themselves as powerful, supernatural, or superior if you don't mind, to pass their message. How I understand the author's intentions in this book is far different from how I contextualize scriptures from religious books.
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Yes I believe God is omniscient. Although I can't say exactly how the author portrayed God in this book, I myself have sometimes wondered why God seemed sad or supprised at his creatures behavior. For instance before God destroys the world (in Genesis), the Bible states that God repented (regretted) making man. And I thought, 'didn't he know the extent of the wickedness of man before making him?'
So I came to this conclusion that God puts before us the 'right' and the 'wrong' decisions. He hopes we'll take the 'right' decision. But if we don't, he is sad, or regrets our decision.
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I agree with you. I think the authors interpretation is wild in a way. He humanizes God too much. I think your point goes hand in hand with the problem of associating God to a father.
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AnnOgochukwu wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 09:22 Yes I believe God is omniscient. Although I can't say exactly how the author portrayed God in this book, I myself have sometimes wondered why God seemed sad or supprised at his creatures behavior. For instance before God destroys the world (in Genesis), the Bible states that God repented (regretted) making man. And I thought, 'didn't he know the extent of the wickedness of man before making him?'
So I came to this conclusion that God puts before us the 'right' and the 'wrong' decisions. He hopes we'll take the 'right' decision. But if we don't, he is sad, or regrets our decision.
I agree with you. God does want us to make right choices. No wonder we are asked to choose life in the Bible.
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Zee_Zee wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 11:59 God is omniscient. However, the author didn't portray him in this light.
Can God chose to forget something?
Can God chose to place something out of His mind, if He wants to?
Can you force God to remember everything?
To what minute detail can you force God to remember?
Can you force God to look at something He doesn't want to see?
Can you force God to look at your or my sin?

Could God, if He wanted to, create a being that was to some extent, unpredictable?

If your answer is yes, then you must consider that He might have done just that.
If your answer is no, then you must reconsider God's omnipotence.

It is one thing to repeat what most people accept as true, it is quite another thing to consider if the cliche is indeed true.
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WardahEbrahim wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 13:09 I agree with you. I think the authors interpretation is wild in a way. He humanizes God too much. I think your point goes hand in hand with the problem of associating God to a father.
God made man in His image. What does that mean?

God's power is beyond human understanding, so in no way human.
God's intellect is beyond human understanding, so in no way human.
God's love for His children is very human. or conversely our love for our children is very Godly.
God made us to Love our children in His image, of the way He loves His/our children.
God is a loving Father. Portraying Him in any other way would be an insult to Him.
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monicamu wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 00:16 This is a matter of belief.
The fact that God is portrayed as being fallible makes for a more interesting story IMHO
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RE "fallible"

Take Gen: 6:6 as an example.

In Gen: 6:6 (chose the biblical translation of this scripture that you prefer): it is clear that God was sorry/sad/repented and or lamented that He had made man.

I don't see that truth as a failure of God. You can only see that as a failure, if you have never loved and lost.
Love is the foundation for both hope and faith and God had all of those for mankind, but it didn't go as He had hoped. That is not his failure. Trusting someone who lets you down is not a failure! That is what fathers do.

God is a real Father and any real Father has his disappointments, that is what it means to be a father. Then again, as a father you can sometimes feel like a failure . . . It is possible that God had those feelings in Gen:6
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ohlendorfbe wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 10:27 I agree with you that the author of this book does not really portray God as omniscient, because he is surprised by the acts of men. The omniscient God that I believe in is all-knowing. I think the author made the Trinity with too many fallible characteristics.
I agree with your comment. But since the book doesn't replace the biblical teachings, there's no harm in the author's way of writing.
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Yes, i believe God is omniscient. it's a good thing to note that the book was written from fictional perspectives.
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God is omniscient but we humans can do whatever we like because we have freewill. It's just like an AI robot thinking for itself. It will surprise the creator but that doesn't mean the creator was totally unaware of it's abilities.
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YES! Absolutely. God is OMNISCIENT. I believe he knows and is aware of everything. Nothing ever takes him unawares. And as he is omniscient, we don't know all he has in mind or why his actions are the way they are. All we can do is trust in all he does and believe it will end well for us
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God is all-knowing because he is everything. He exists simultaneously in all places and thus has ultimate understanding.
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