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Did anyone else notice contradictions or inconsistencies in the book?

Two examples: Eve asks Adam how he will pay for their rebellion. A few pages later Adam talks about payment, and Eve asks what a payment is. Where she did use the word herself before.

Adam advised Abel to show better judgment when helping his brothers, especially Cain. A few paragraphs later, the author says that both Adam and Abel knew they were talking about Cain without naming him.
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Perhaps the author meant to say Eve was asking what their payment would be? Or she didn't fully understand the concept of payment or consequence. We are talking about the first humans ever here. In a world before trade. What is payment? Think of them as innocent children who didn't know right from wrong yet.

Adam pointing out especially Cain needing better judgment lets Abel know he meant be more careful with Cain, so later they had that understanding he meant especially Cain.
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slj3988 wrote: 03 Jun 2020, 08:55 Perhaps the author meant to say Eve was asking what their payment would be? Or she didn't fully understand the concept of payment or consequence. We are talking about the first humans ever here. In a world before trade. What is payment? Think of them as innocent children who didn't know right from wrong yet.
If Eve doesn't know what payment is, how come she uses that very same word and concept a few pages before her question?

The instances are about Adam paying for his rebellion and Adam paying for his debt. So very much the same concept.
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You are right about these inconsistencies, better editing could have fixed them.
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You have a very good eye to catch these inconsistencies. Hopefully future editing will take care of the issues.
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Wow! Good catch! I guess I missed that.
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The book is full of inconsistencies, and I'm only 2/3 through. In addition, the anachronisms are piled one on top of the other. And then of course there is the concept of jumping directly from the Stone Age to the Iron Age, all during the time of Adam, including the forging of iron into steel. The time of Moses was within the Bronze Age, the Iron Age not coming until well after the time the Hebrews settled into the Promised Land. I know this isn't a history book, but a better command of time and place would have made this more palatable.
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Mstrtim wrote: 07 Jun 2020, 14:46 The book is full of inconsistencies, and I'm only 2/3 through. In addition, the anachronisms are piled one on top of the other. And then of course there is the concept of jumping directly from the Stone Age to the Iron Age, all during the time of Adam, including the forging of iron into steel. The time of Moses was within the Bronze Age, the Iron Age not coming until well after the time the Hebrews settled into the Promised Land. I know this isn't a history book, but a better command of time and place would have made this more palatable.
I agree, I also got annoyed by the inconsistencies and the mistakes unfortunately.
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I noticed the inconsistencies in several instances also. It seems the author had a little difficulty with dialogue between the first people on Earth and picked words randomly to emphasize their newness in life. For instance, Eve knew what swimming meant because when Adam asked if she had tried swimming yet, she said, "No, I haven't. Not yet. You will have to teach me." There was no form of reference for the word swim, but she understood it. However, he picked payment as a word to show that they were learning new words and I guess forgot that she had already said the word as if she understood it.
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slj3988 wrote: 03 Jun 2020, 08:55 Perhaps the author meant to say Eve was asking what their payment would be? Or she didn't fully understand the concept of payment or consequence. We are talking about the first humans ever here. In a world before trade. What is payment? Think of them as innocent children who didn't know right from wrong yet.

Adam pointing out especially Cain needing better judgment lets Abel know he meant be more careful with Cain, so later they had that understanding he meant especially Cain.
I agree with your explanations for the inconsistencies but feel that the author could have taken up better word choice in order to prevent such confusion.
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Leen282 wrote: 03 Jun 2020, 08:59
slj3988 wrote: 03 Jun 2020, 08:55 Perhaps the author meant to say Eve was asking what their payment would be? Or she didn't fully understand the concept of payment or consequence. We are talking about the first humans ever here. In a world before trade. What is payment? Think of them as innocent children who didn't know right from wrong yet.
If Eve doesn't know what payment is, how come she uses that very same word and concept a few pages before her question?

The instances are about Adam paying for his rebellion and Adam paying for his debt. So very much the same concept.
Definitely something the author should have checked better or the editor because it makes Eve a little inconsistent
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kljrox wrote: 09 Jun 2020, 16:31 I noticed the inconsistencies in several instances also. It seems the author had a little difficulty with dialogue between the first people on Earth and picked words randomly to emphasize their newness in life. For instance, Eve knew what swimming meant because when Adam asked if she had tried swimming yet, she said, "No, I haven't. Not yet. You will have to teach me." There was no form of reference for the word swim, but she understood it. However, he picked payment as a word to show that they were learning new words and I guess forgot that she had already said the word as if she understood it.
I found the use of language entirely inconsistent with the setting of the novel. The dialogue was too modern. It's unbelievable that the people of that time would have a conversation along the lines of, "Cain, do you understand the concept of 'until death do we part'?"
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Yes they were a quite a number of contradictions and inconsistencies in this book
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There are also quite a few compared to what it actually says in the Bible. I know they're only supposed to be based on biblical stories, but it just seems a bit odd to actually change details and not just fill in the gaps.
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Eva is born before Cain and Abel and assists at their birth. Later on towards the end Abel is shown a vision of Eva and she is his younger sister.
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