Nerea wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 15:58you are right about the first question, for the second question, It all come down to freedom of choice. Originally man was not built for sin, but along the line, it became part of us, but the redemption on the cross has taken that compulsion to sin away from us. So it is left for us to chose rightly and stay away from sin for good.Kirsi_78 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 09:49 That is a very good question. Unfortunately, we'll never know the answer.
And what comes to your second question, I suppose Eve and Adam were not born with original sin, but they used their freedom of choice and as a result, everyone who's come after them is born with original sin. But even with this original sin we still have the freedom to choose what we do and what we don't do... That's what I've reasoned about this difficult topic so far.
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Good questions.slj3988 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 07:29 There is much debate amongst the religious community over the birth of murder as a sin. My question is if the devil hadn't tricked or persuaded mankind to commit such sins, would humanity have gone a different way?
It is argued by some that we are all born with original sin. We are all capable of such monstrosity. Given that we have free will, can we fairly blame evil on an entity outside ourselves?
I guess if we blame everything on the devil. Then who caused the devil to go astray in the first place?
There definitely is a part of ourselves that pushes us to go beyond bounds.
I don't believe in original sin, we each take responsibility for our actions.
Some are caused by the devil, yes, and some are from ourselves.
Free will, after all.
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Adam and Even were created in the Image of God. But after the fall, the people that they begat were in Adam's (sinful) image.
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I think all man is inherently evil. Everyone has a bit of a dark side, it's our choices (free will) that makes the difference. This inherent evil (which God also noted in Genesis) originated as soon as Adam and Eve ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge therefore knowing good and evil.slj3988 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 07:29 There is much debate amongst the religious community over the birth of murder as a sin. My question is if the devil hadn't tricked or persuaded mankind to commit such sins, would humanity have gone a different way?
It is argued by some that we are all born with original sin. We are all capable of such monstrosity. Given that we have free will, can we fairly blame evil on an entity outside ourselves?
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With knowledge comes free will and responsbility. It doesn't matter who tempted you, what matters is that finally you are the one who decided to sin. God was linient because our nature is weak. But that does not excuse us in anyway. Neither can we blame our decisions on Lucifer. What makes it more serious is that God gave man his power to lean on and so men like Abel were able to live a sinless life of faith. We are given despite our weakness the chance to choose the right path.slj3988 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 07:29 There is much debate amongst the religious community over the birth of murder as a sin. My question is if the devil hadn't tricked or persuaded mankind to commit such sins, would humanity have gone a different way?
It is argued by some that we are all born with original sin. We are all capable of such monstrosity. Given that we have free will, can we fairly blame evil on an entity outside ourselves?
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I agree to thisRaju Chacko wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 22:38 We are all prone to commit sin but we don't necessarily have to. We live in a world where we have been made aware of the influence of both God and Satan on us. God, as someone who always wants our good, has exposed Satan to us and warned us of the consequences of following him (in other words, of disobeying God). It's up to us to choose. Known only too well today, Jesus is man's friend and Savior who saves us from Satan's traps and helps us in our battle against the deceiver. So it ultimately depends on us to refrain from or succumb to evil.
Thanks for the comment.